Transcript 0:01 It's The Danger Gnome, best fat bike tire. 0:23 [rock music] Hey, on this episode of The Danger Gnome, we're going to talk to our crew of product testers about what their favorite twenty-six inch big, twenty-six inch bigger, twenty-seven point five big, twenty-seven point five bigger, and best fat bike tire ever. 0:49 So five choices for each of our, uh, guests tonight, and we're gonna kinda go rapid fire through our amigos. So up first is Adam Blake. Yes, yes. After this. 1:06 Stardate seven six twenty-one. Today's ride, pedal and paddle on Rock Lake. I rode a hot pink Salsa Cutthroat named Yvonne, 1:25 and I, uh, stowed my paddling gear in a Revelate Designs fourteen liter seat pack. I got everything kinda in that, including a dry bag and 1:42 a CO2 PFD, and the collapsible in four sections paddle, right? I keep a boat at Rock Lake. I pay to have it locked up there for the season. 1:56 And, uh, so rode ten miles out there on the gravel, Glacial Drumlin Trail, and then rolled into the, uh, through Korth Park, past the osprey nest, and then 2:12 down to the park where, uh, the put in is. Paddled around, looks like about a quarter of the lake, like it was about a three-mile paddle, and it's a twenty-mile ride. 2:24 And then back up and around those, so I went around the entirety of Rock Lake back into beautiful downtown Lake Mills, where I passed up both the, uh, hotdog stand and the taco truck to, uh, 2:41 jet home. And, uh, that is a Tuesday ride, twenty-three miles, about a little over two hours of moving time, probably about forty minutes of not moving time. Got a nice swim in, and, uh, 3:00 that's that. So yeah. I've been breaking stuff on the bike. That's not cool. On Sunday morning's ride at Camrock, took my Krampus out, 3:12 got to the top of, or almost to the top of [chuckles] Mayer's Playground, and my, uh... I could pedal forward, but the-- and the rear cassette was moving, but yeah, not engaging at all. 3:28 So my, uh, free hub is fried on the, uh, White Industries M16 hub that's on there. So that should be interesting to get replaced. Those are relatively new hubs and, uh, new wheels. I'm kinda bummed. 3:45 But yeah, I've just been breaking stuff. Ten beers got brake contamination issues. I'm really rethinking hydraulic brakes versus, uh, mechanical brakes. 3:59 I think I wanna try a pair of TPR spires, TRP spires on that bike. Sorry, [chuckles] little, little podcasting dyslexia there. Um, or something, because I'm 4:15 putting precious new rotors on there with these beautiful new head wheels and kinda want, want it to work. And that drivetrain is pretty hashed, so it's time for a new eleven-speed cassette, new chain, yada, yada, yada. 4:32 [chuckles] So brakes, transmission, everything on ten beers is FUBAR. So, um, yeah. We got a new set of wheels for that bike though. [laughs] And, uh, what else? Like our-- The, the Wyatt demo, boom. 4:50 Wanted to let one of the cats at the shop ride it. Blue seal on the front brake. Gotta bleed those Shimano brakes coming up here. And, uh, what else is messed up in the... Oh, and yeah. Well, here's, here's something. 5:08 My road bike needs work. [laughs] Should I even get out a road bike? Put a comment. Yeah. Yes, don't be such a roadie, Gomez. Or, yeah, put that skin suit on and be a roadie. So, uh, that's it for today. 5:24 Tomorrow there'll be more. Ha. Hey, it's The Danger Gnome tire, the fat tire thing, and I have Adam Blake on the line. What's up, Adam? Oh, man, uh, just enjoying the day. Probably have to grab some snacks later. 5:41 It is that, the day of snacks, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is four twenty and- Recording it here on April twentieth. It's, uh, it's three fifty-eight, so if we talk long enough, [chuckles] we'll hit four twenty. 5:52 If we talk long enough, I'll be able to open a bag of Doritos. [laughs] So, uh, this is- Other than that, though, real good, brother. Yeah, right on. I know. It's-- We've just had some April snow here. It's pretty crazy. 6:05 Yeah. I got out on the bike todayKeeps the fat bikes fresh in the mind. Yeah, absolutely. It was cold enough today where I rode the fat bike and, uh, you know. 6:17 'Cause the colder it is, the fatter the tire I ride so I can go slower and not have to whoop and show. Absolutely. You know? 6:25 So that's, that's, uh, what we're gonna talk about here is the best fat bike tires, and I've kind of broken it down into, uh, 26 fat, 26 fatter, 27.5 fat, 27.5 fatter, and then- Absolutely... 6:43 the Joe King Carrasco champion of all fat bike tires ever. [laughs] That sounds great. I've got one for each. All right, so 26 fat. What do you got? 6:55 26 fat, I think, uh, being the most classic size obviously has the most options, and for me, this is-- uh, all these tires are more representative of, like, how I like to ride the bike. Mm-hmm. 7:06 So if you think a Jumbo Jim is great 'cause it's fast and you ride it, that's cool, but for me, the 26x4 tire, uh, is the Van Helga. I've talked about it on other, um, podcasts, Danger Gnome stuff. 7:19 The 42 Van Helga is my... it, it's really usurped everything all-terrain for me. My wife rides them on her Mukluk. I just can't beat that tire. The 45North Van Helga. In, in the plaid, plaid walls, right? Oh, yeah. 7:36 Plaid. Whatever Chris Daisy's promoting right now, yeah, I want the most new fall sidewall colors you can possibly make. [laughs] Nice. Nice. And the 26 fatter. 7:50 Um, so 26 fatter for me i-is kind of tough because of the 46 world that exists. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 7:58 Um, a-and so if-- but if I'm thinking 26 fatter, I think the Johnny Five from Terrene is the tire I would ride in the deepest snow for the most flotation with the best traction. 8:12 My dad was named John, and he went by Johnny. Yeah, man, Johnny Five is alive. 8:19 That tire is, I, I think, really effective in that super large volume of not rolling like a slug, um, feeling somewhat nimble for having a huge tire everywhere, and I, I like how that tire rides. All right. 8:34 Now we skip over to, uh, how shall you say, B fat, tall fat, trek fat. [laughs] Bigger fat. 27, 27.5. 8:46 So, broken record, but I, I can't not say Van Helga again due to the fact that that's been the tire that has been on my bike for just over a year now. Um, I had Dillinger. 9:00 I love Dillinger for an all-terrain tire, but the Van Helga on my Bear Grease seems to be the tire that bails me out of more situations than any tire. Yeah. Big sweet spot on that tire, for sure. 9:12 Yeah, and the off-camber traction is something I love. 9:15 Uh, when you're riding a hillside and it's a little loose, those tires just seem to hook up, and if anything, they get you that extra one second to react and align your bike up versus putting the foot down. Shizzle. 9:27 Now, the 4.5 27.5, John. Yeah. So a-at least the last I looked, not as many tires in that, right? But the tire that visually appeals to me the most- Mm-hmm... 9:44 a-and that I've ridden in other platforms is the Terrene Cake Eater in a 45. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um- I've spent some time on that tire, for sure. 9:52 If you look at that tire, and you hear me talk about the Van Helga, it's not surprising that I also like your tires, um, that Terrene makes. 10:04 They roll well, and again, for me, when I'm on the biggest tire, I kinda have to play this mitigation of feeling like the bike is still lively but knowing that I just have to carry a bunch of tire, and I think the Cake Eater does that well. 10:17 I can accelerate, I can do stuff, um, and ride a bike in rougher, more variable conditions on that tire. Nice. And then the grand champion. Does that have to be a different one, or is it one I've already said? 10:35 Um, no. There are, there are no rules here. [laughs] I'm, I'm-- yeah. Right. We make the rules, and then we break the rules. Exactly. Um. 10:44 [laughs] We're, we're, we're an organization based on chaos and, and disrespect for any authority. [laughs] Right. Yeah, right. I'm totally with that. 10:55 Um, I, I think this is, like, lame, and I even say it, but I, I just feel like I have to preach, practice what I preach kind of thing, and I ride Van Helgas. I ride them now on gravel, dirt, snow. 11:08 I used to think they were slow for gra- all this stuff. I was wrong. People were smart enough to tell me, "You gotta try them." But that's what's on my bike all the time. 11:17 So in the world that I wanna be in, I would put the tire that I think is the best for my bike, and it's always a Van Helga now. There it is. From 45North. The 45North Van Helga. 11:29 Or, or are you rocking- I would love to get a tan one out now... are you rocking the, are you rocking the Tan Helgas? I run black Helgas on mine, but Tan Helga is quite pretty. Yeah. 11:40 I, you know- But I wanna do-- since-- wait, we don't have any rules, so I wanna do, like, a sub, uh, award that I can just give. Oh, yeah. You know- Which is the most bad tire... the honorable mentions. 11:49 Honorable mentions. Yeah. Honorable mention is Rap Lord because that tire just looks like it would rip your face off. [laughs] Like, it's the most impressive tire I've ever seen in my life. 12:00 I- I still look at them and go, "Jesus Christ, this is crazy," you know? I wholeheartedly concur with you, sir. Rap Lord. Like, I've never even got to ride it too much and all this, but it's just the- Oh, my fucking God. 12:12 Yeah... most beefy-looking thing I've ever seen. I love it. Yeah.Talk about- Huge XL concave studs. Like, it looks more like an assault weapon than a tire. [laughs] It's, it's two parts assault weapon, one part tire. 12:28 Yeah. Like, if somebody broke into my house, I wouldn't grab a bat or a gun. [laughs] I'd grab a Wrathlord and just start swinging it. Oh, yeah. [laughs] Indeed. I feel like- So I feel like I have to say that, right? 12:37 You could go into any battle with bandoleros of Wrathlords on you and- Right. 12:42 And I feel like I have to say that because what that tire does, it is so specific to that tire that for me to compare it to even a studdable tire, it, it's just not a really fair comparison. 12:55 Um, it exists on its own island in my world, which is you wanna ride the nastiest, slickest ice, this is the tire you want. You wanna circum- you wanna ride across lakes, this is the tire you want. 13:06 You wanna ride most normal stuff, I don't know if you need it, but boy, it impresses me every time I see it. Yeah. You wanna ride on lakes at speed. [laughs] Right. 13:16 You wanna corner icy berms, you wanna do that stuff- Right. [laughs] There's no other tire. If that became a category, that's a no-brainer for me, you know? Yeah. 13:24 'Cause you can ride on lakes on, on regular studded tires, but once- Absolutely... you start to push that speed and start to create more acute angles, eh, hmm, that Wrathlord. Yep. 13:36 And that's why I think that I just wanna put it on its own island. 'Cause even myself, I, I know I don't ride- Well played... on it as aggressively as people could, you know? Well played. 13:46 Um, so- I think that I'll give everyone a, uh, an honorable mention. Yeah. It just didn't fit into any category that I thought, but God, it stands alone. Right. You know, Wrathlord, El Chingon. Yeah. 14:02 Dude, that tire blew my mind. But badass. Yeah. So rock on. Well, well, I, uh, I have, uh, about, I don't know, half a dozen to a dozen other, uh, [dog barking] folks to talk to. 14:18 Oh, Lordy, there goes- Cowboy... Cowboy. Hey, Cowboy. [laughs] Hi, Cowboy. It's Cowboy. I don't know who he's barking at. But, uh, hey man, good talking with you. 14:28 Hey, I wanna throw-- Yeah, I wanna throw one thing out too. Oh, yeah. 14:31 Just if people listen to this, I don't know if it'll come out first, but Amanda Nauman, uh, a friend of mine and a two-time queen of Kanza, just set and then reset a fastest known time out in California on a new, uh, route that they've been scouting and working on, and I got to sit down with her for about an hour, so we'll be putting that podcast out as kind of the last in the Women Who Rock series on my new podcast that you so graciously facilitate for me. 14:57 Right on. So, uh- Yeah, man... that, that will be here in the, uh, month of April, the great April. Yeah, should be real soon. All right, dude. We'll talk to you soon. Cool, brother. Oh, man. Thank you. See you, dude. 15:08 Love talking to you. All right. Bye bye. Bye. Podcasters log 7/7/21. What a day to go gambling, eh? Yeah, it's always a good day to lose some money. So, uh, today's ride, I took the new Hed 15:27 Onyx Bird, Bird Onyx, Onyx Bird Head wheels out to, on their first ride. Got them, uh, set up tubeless over last night and this morning. Front tire was quite cantankerous. 15:43 Put up a good fight, but ha, there is no tire that will not go tubeless. So I, I took those out and, uh, wow, just made the bike feel so light and playful. Yee-haw. 16:01 1,900 gram wheel set. Used to riding a 2,400 gram wheel set, so felt quite a bit easier to go, brup, up things and over things and you know how you 16:17 come through a little, uh, speed hill where, where it's like a deceleration hill and you're gonna put the gas on it again? 16:27 I just had to be, like, a full gear harder when I went to put that gas on or else it was like, whoa, I s- you know, just wasn't enough, uh, torque there. So good stuff. 16:39 And, uh, apparently my brakes, no matter what, uh, I, how much I sand them or shout at them, they honk like a horny goose. Ugh, it's gonna kill me. So yeah. 16:55 Um, new pads, but that don't exist or new brakes that might exist, something's gotta be done. But, uh, my previous, uh, saying that the whole drivetrain was FUBAR was wrong. Actually, it's working quite good, so 17:11 you'll hear more about that. That was today's ride, and, uh, it's your Uncle Gomez here on the Danger Gnome. Up next, we have Angry Andy talking about tires. The best fat bike tire according to Andy coming right up. 17:30 Hey, it's the Danger Gnome podcast, best fat bike tire edition, and I have a guy that I've known for, like, 175 years. Angry- Gnomieres. [laughs] Gnomieres. Angry Andy, welcome to the Danger Gnome. 17:47 Hola. [laughs] So- So fat bike tires. Yeah. Yeah. So we have, we have- They're fat. [laughs] We have five categories. 17:59 26 big, 26 bigger, 27.5 big, 27.5 bigger, and then the best ever. All right. So, well, hands down, 26 big. Yeah. Husqvarna in the dirt all day long. All right. 18:15 That's my favorite summer tire, Husqvarna. 18:17 Run it backwards in the back, run it forwards in the frontSecond big tire maybe for gnarlier conditions if it's muddy and sloppy out, I run a Nate in the back, which is a great tire, kind of small, and a Van Halen in front. 18:33 Hey, hey, hey, there's one winner. [laughs] Just kidding. 18:38 I, I just said, uh, to Adam that there were no rules, but we're gonna give you for best ever, you're gonna have one, uh, honorable mention, but for these lower categories, you just gotta, you just gotta pick the best of that category. 18:52 All right. Well, I'm telling you- So like if you like Hoosker Doo, then Nate- Straight up Hoosker Doo... then, then Nate can't be a part of that 'cause Nate and Hoosker Doo, like completely different subcategories, man. 19:05 They don't, they don't play nice together. Well, one's a aggressive knobby tire and the other one's a roll fast do everything tire. Yeah. You know? You got me. So- And Hoosker is a great band too, so there. 19:15 That win in both columns. Um- Indeed. Indeedily doodily. So 27- So 26 bigger. Like a four- All right... 4.8. 26 bigger, most biggerer would definitely have to go to Bud, Bud, Bud in the front. 19:32 I don't think there's a better snow tire out there that I've ridden, for sure. Yeah. The Bud, and you know, the thing about Bud is I don't see anybody making a tire like that today. Like- No... 19:46 not with those long, linear, flappy, that are great- Yes... for a front snow tire, you know? Yeah. 19:54 There's, there's nothing out there to beat that tire I don't think, and that's why I love riding it in the winter because that tire is never gonna wear out on me I don't think. 20:01 So I'm gonna hold onto that one as long as I can. There you go. And well, they, they came out with a tubeless Bud and Lou now. Really? I haven't actually, uh, eaten one, but I heard they're super tasty. 20:14 [laughs] Good knobbies. And then, uh, we have the w- how do you say, B Fat, Tall Fat, Trek Fat, 27.5. 7-5. Big. Well, I don't have a whole lot of experience on those. 20:30 I had a Stumpy 6 Fattie for a while that came with the standard specialized tires, and those got pitched after the first ride. Yeah. And ended up with, uh, Maxxis CHRs and DHS. Oh? 20:43 And great tires, but they're a little bit smaller. They weren't like a 3.0, but they're filled the bill for that bike. So other than that- Well, you're talking-... I don't have a full- You're, you're talking plus tires. 20:55 So we can just, we can just put a pass in your 27.5 Fat category. You got it. Yep. That's a pass. Which leaves us with the best fat bike tire ever. Ah. 21:11 [laughs] The best fat bike tire of all. Ever. Ever. In the entire universe. Well, I'm, I'm gonna stick with my Hoosker Doos, 'cause I rode those for the first couple years in the snow. 21:24 I've ridden 'em at Wasatch for 24 hours straight. I've ridden them a countless miles off-road, and hands down the best tire. All right. By far. Well, uh, and this begs the question what, which Hoosker Doo? 21:39 The OG Hooskers or the new Hoosker? The OG. The OGs. And I'm sitting on a couple brand new ones still wrapped up that I haven't broken into yet. Oh, wow. You better keep those in a vault- Saving them for Wasatch... 21:54 'cause nobody can get nothing these days. Yeah. I'm saving them for Wasatch. They're gonna get broken in at that race. Yeah. Yep. I'm a, I'm trying out some 22:10 Bontrager Hodags right now, which remind me of those tires a little bit. Mm-hmm. Um, and I, I, I haven't ridden them enough to, to really talk about them too much. Way to mention it then, dumbass. 22:28 [laughs] That was, that was- Way to go off script. Yeah. Well, the s- the script was that we were supposed to talk about tires, and we did, so Jesus. [laughs] Fair. 22:40 So yeah, I should give you a hard time on the recording here about you and Rob going riding single speeds at Kettle and then not even calling me. [laughs] You could. God. 22:52 Could, but I- But we'll make up for it next weekend. We'll ride. Right. You think Sunday? I, I, no, for sure Sunday. Really? I am a free man. Fantastic. And you're, you're moving up, uh, onto the DMZ. Yeah. 23:08 Pretty close to it. Antioch. That, that would be good, right there on that, uh, the borderlands. Yeah. So you'd be able to, uh- You know, I figure, yeah, I figure I go up to Wisconsin twice a week. 23:20 I mean, this weekend I've been to Wisconsin twice, so I'm driving south from work, so I've kinda figured out I'm gonna try to work a four-day work week and work Fridays from home, and if I do that, I'll actually put less miles on my truck driving to work and then driving up back to Wisconsin over weekends or even weeknights. 23:38 Oh, cool. So yeah, it just makes sense. And, uh, you know Michelle was up in Burlington, but I don't know how that's gonna work out, so [laughs] This, this is recorded. Do you realize this is recorded, right? 23:51 [laughs] We'll have to- Well, you can just edit that out. I'll have to edit that out. Just Andy's love life here- [laughs]... right on the Danger Dome. Doesn't get any more dangerous than that right there. Nope. 24:06 Right there. Putting it out there. [laughs] Moving on up there. Any of you ladies in the general Northern Illinois area, Angry Andy. Any- Not as angry as I used to be. [laughs] Yep. 24:21 You'd have the new bachelor pad, so yep, it's gonna be good. Nice. How many car garage- Hope, hope it gets funded... you gonna get? 'Cause that's, that's-Two and a half. Two and a half? Come on, man. Yeah. 24:32 You gotta go for the three. Yeah. The six-car garage, lakefront property. Come on, man. And a giant full basement that I can fill up with bicycles. Yeah. Indoor, indoor banks track and shit. Yeah. We need all that. 24:47 Oh, yeah. Yeah. [laughs] All right, duder. Well, it's all good. Well, thanks for, uh, joining me here on the Danger Gnome. Uh- Yep... it is 4/20, so smoke 'em if you got 'em. And, uh, what else is going on? 25:03 Got the weather. I think, I think that you're this week's, uh, this week's Wallpaper Wednesday. The- Oh... preforementioned Rob Neff took the photo- Oh, really?... of you at Silver Lake. It's all coming around. 25:19 Oh, the sun- the sunset photo. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that was a great... That was a shitty ride, but a great picture. [laughs] Aw, was your ride, was your ride [laughs] not good? I'm sorry. It was mashed potatoes. 25:34 [laughs] Oh, man. Yeah, one of those days. But yeah, it was a good ride, uh, somewhat. It was a good ride- And again... [laughs] if you, if you drank a lot or something. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. 25:48 Did you guys cook out afterwards? 'Cause that's what you and Rob are famous for. We, we do it every time. We cooked out [laughs] we cooked out Saturday and Sunday this weekend. You know what I tried? 25:59 And- And Rob comes up with this [laughs] are we, are we still taping here? Rob comes over here, "We're like the Sausage Boys." I'm like, "Nope, you need to come up with a new name." [laughs] Yeah. 26:13 Well, speaking of sausage- Sure... and, uh, grilling out, I just came across some teriyaki pineapple bratwurst. Oh. [laughs] Dude. You'll have to bring those. They are- You'll have to bring some this weekend... 26:28 they are so good. Yeah, I'll bring some. Sounds good. Yeah, yeah. I'm already... Got my mouth watering. All right. Um- We'll just leave, leave our listeners with that little, uh, little bit of- [laughs]... 26:40 little bit of, uh- Leave a little visual. Right? There's a visual for you for the- We'll have, we'll have more gnome recipes and sausage ideas later in the show, but now- [laughs]... 26:50 we're gonna say goodbye to Andy and, uh, maybe we'll have a goofy commercial in here for Capybara Butter. All right. Adios, amigos. All right, dude. We'll see you later. All right. Later. 27:03 Today's program is brought to you by Capybara Butter. Capybara Butter is the gooch butter of the Levis Mound Fat Tire Festival coming up September 10th through the 12th at Levis Mound near Neillsville, Wisconsin. 27:21 So stop on up there, slather on some Capybara Butter and ride all damn day and night. Up next, we've got Luke. He's gonna talk about fat bike tires. Hey, we have our newest 27:37 Bike Black Ribbon test pilot on the line. His name is Luke Drinkard, and he's up in Duluth, Minnesota. Welcome to the Danger Gnome, amigo. Hey, thanks for having me. Um, glad I could be on. 27:54 Glad I could be, uh, a part of your fun times. Yeah, this is the, uh, this is the best fat bike tire episode of the Danger Gnome podcast. Uh, 28:08 Luke hasn't ridden the, uh, the, the Tall Fat 27.5, so what's your choice for best 26-inch fat tire? So I've ridden a few, uh, four-inch tires- Mm-hmm... 28:26 um, since I've started biking, with the fat bikes obviously. Right. Uh, at first I had some, some OnOnes, which have quickly disappeared for some reason, though they had the greatest colors. Yeah. 28:39 Um- You probably lost those white ones in the snow. [laughs] I actually never got my hands on a pair of those. I had some orange Killer ones, man. They looked sweet. I had like a Halloween- [laughs]... uh, themed bike. 28:54 My wife would be jealous. Her favorite cover, color is orange. Oh, well, she's a smart lady. [laughs] And then I've also had some, um, some Wazias, which I, I think those were four inch. Yeah. 29:09 And then, um, so now depending on the trails obviously and, and the conditions, um, I've got a pair of Dillinger 4s. Mm-hmm. 29:22 Studded Dillinger 4s that I just bought this last year, and uh, I, I think they are pretty darn nice. All right. Is that your choice for the 26 fat? I would have to say yes. I'm sure the unstudded version is, is 29:38 super nice as well, but sometimes, you know, studs can be very helpful. Yeah. I like to call the Dillingers Dillies, Dillie 4s- Dillies. [laughs]... for short. That probably really pisses some people off. 29:54 Well, you know, not everybody can be happy about everything in the world. That's- Reminds me of Dilly pickles, and- That's a-... those happen to be my favorite pickles, so- [laughs]... I like it. Right on. 30:05 And for the 26-inch fatter, that'd be like 4.8 or 4.555 to 4.8, or 5.05 if you go all the way up to the, you know, the big-est. 30:22 I, I haven't been able to get on those yet. Um, I know my bike shop up here has some, um, Johnny Fives he's had for sale for a while, and I've seen some tracks in the snow, and they seem to be pretty popular. 30:35 Um-I've ridden that I've also had- I've ridden that tire. That's a good tire. Yeah? Yeah. Is it? How does it work with the, uh, with the super loose stuff? Is it, is it like gobs of traction? Yeah. Yeah. 30:50 [laughs] Uh, it... And, and surprisingly easy rolling. I mean, it's... I, I call that tire the secret weapon, dude. And I- [laughs] Last March I... The March before last, March of 2020, I was... 31:06 I spent a couple of weeks in, in Alaska, and it snowed every day, dude. It snowed like crazy, and those tires just smiled and kept on rolling. Was like, yeah, this is- Have some more... this is what I was made for. 31:24 Last time I was up in Duluth, I coulda used those tires. I was, uh- I remember that... I was running my Afterburners. It was pretty loose. Yeah. [laughs] That was a fun ride, though. That was pretty fun. 31:36 That was very fun. Yeah, the, the loose stuff with Rudy, and then, uh, over at Spirit Mountain, the downhill. Yeah. Got pretty crazy out there. Yeah, Duluth just has it going on. But here's, here's a question, is 31:52 who would win in the battle of best fat bike destination between Duluth and, say, Marquette? Well, you know, obviously since I live in Duluth, Duluth all the way. Yeah. 32:10 Unfortunately, I, I haven't been out to, um, Marquette, so I can't totally say that with 100%, but I'm just gonna go with that. You know what? 32:19 I would, I would have to put the vote in for [laughs] my vote for Marquette just based on legal weed. [laughs] Oh. Just kidding. Just kidding. Well, you know- Uh, I-... it's all legal if you don't get caught here. 32:34 Oh, well, all right. [laughs] Not that I advocate it. Just saying. Yeah, just saying. If you're not caught, then everything's fine. Exactly. So, uh, which leads us to the, uh, 32:48 Joe King Carrasco, the grand champion of, uh, best fat bike ti- tire ever created on Earth in this dimension. Well, I will have to say that my personal favorite 33:07 is actually two tires. Yeah. And they come in a combination. Oh. Which would be the Minion- Ooh... FBF, which is the front- Yeah... and the FBR for the rear in a 4.8 tire. Nice. 33:23 And I only say that 'cause that is the tire that I run the most. Yeah. Well, I thi- And it's- You, you, you could knock me over with a feather. All right. 33:34 I thought you were gonna say, uh, a pre-World War II comedy, uh, duo [laughs] named Bud and Lou Coster. Bud and Lou. [laughs] Yeah. I thought that's who you were going with. But the- I'm-... 33:49 FBR FBF I've, I've, I've run both the 4 and the 4.8 on that tire. I had, I had, uh, a set of prototypes that actually said prototype on them. [laughs] Well, that's fancy there. Neato. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I... 34:06 You know, they may not roll the fastest, but they have just so much grip and, um, yeah, like for what we do around here in Duluth, and I run them year-round for a couple years and the rocks, the loose, the- Yeah, man. 34:24 There, there's-... tar, everything... there's some stuff there at one of the places that the loose ride that we did that, that in the summertime have to be just very, uh, very... 34:38 puts, put the mountain in mountain biking it looked like. Very rocky and- I would probably say that was Piedmont then. Yeah, Piedmont. That's what it was. Yep. And I'm pretty sure if, uh, 34:50 if you were in Piedmont you had to go to the NIMBY cluster- Yeah... and that would be where all the fun is had in, in, uh, in Piedmont. Oh, cool. 35:00 So what's, what's the, the trail that goes from system to system to system and links them all together? It's like the Ridgeline or... Oh, that would be the Duluth Traverse- That's it... or the DT. Yeah. Yep. Yep. 35:13 That is a very fun trail for all types of riders. Beginning, middle, intermediate, experts. It's just a fun trail. I mean, it, it goes through all of Duluth. 35:25 I actually ride, I ride it quite, I don't know, a few times a year I'll do, uh, an out and back. Mm-hmm. Start at one end of the town and 35:33 bike all the way up and then bike back, and that's, uh, it's about 80 miles just on the DT. So it's a, it's a good day. Yeah. No kidding. 35:43 Well, we should all be so lucky to have a, uh, [laughs] a mountain bike trail where you can get 80 miles in on an out and back. That would be pretty cool. Right. Yeah. 35:53 Not, not just having to do lap after lap, but you know, sometimes you, you gotta go where you can go and just have fun. Right on. Well, you- Pretty sure that's what mountain biking was made for, just to have fun. 36:07 Yeah, indeed. Well, that's, uh, I've been a consistent cheerleader for keeping fat bikes fun, you know? This is, this is the most fun I've had on, on any kind of bike is on fat bikes. Good crowd. 36:24 They're- Good tires... there's something about them. Yeah. It's just, they just roll everything. They're basically monster trucks for bikes. [laughs] There it is. Yeah. And yeah- Mm-hmm... 36:33 you can get, you know, super fancy bikes with the, uh, the suspension and full suspension and-More suspension than you'll ever need, or, well, at least me, 'cause, you know, I don't do all that crazy stuff. 36:45 But yeah, the, the, the fat bikes are definitely a very fun year-round bike. Right on. I think it-- You know, the, the older I get, the more I try and recreate [laughs] 37:02 my, my-- the positive aspects of cycling in my childhood, right? Yeah. And I think the fat bike duplicates that the best. 37:11 It gives me [laughs] the best flashbacks to 1968 when I was, like, nine years old, ripping around on, uh, forest preserve trails in Des Plaines, Illinois. Yeah. 37:25 It is tough to recreate that, uh, that, that feeling, that first feeling of getting on a bike, you know, riding, doing jumps, jumping off curbs- Mm-hmm... crashing. [laughs] Yeah. That one's not too hard to duplicate. 37:39 No. [laughs] That one happens. I try not to crash too much, but, you know, I try and, uh, have a lot of low altitude flying through the woods. Oh, it's a good time. Sometimes that's the safer option. 37:52 [chuckles] Yes, indeed. Well, my man, thanks for coming on the show, and I will, uh, I will look forward to maybe, uh, getting out for a ride with you. Sounds fantastic. All right, dude. 38:06 Thank you again for having me on, and I, uh, I look forward to working with you guys. All right. Sounds good. Take care. You have a good day. All right. Bye. Well, that's our show. 38:17 It's the best fat bike tire show on the Danger Gnome. I wanna thank Adam Blake. We'll, uh, be having a story coming up here on the site about his fat bike, Buzz Lightyear. And you can always check out Adam's 38:31 Pneu podcast. That's P-N-E-U podcast. Comes up just about every month or so. 38:39 And, uh, we wanna thank Angry Andy, my longtime amigo, and our newest product tester, Luke, up there from Duluth. Uh, 38:51 till we, uh, talk again on the old podcast, felices caminos y bicis gordas para siempre, amigos. Check us out on Instagram @fatbike.com. 39:01 Till then [echoing]
