Transcript 0:00 [electronic music] It's the Danger Gnome Podcast, and this is a special edition of the Danger Gnome Podcast. 0:26 This is recorded in Travis Hubbard's garage, which is, uh, in Anchorage, Alaska. Travis is our fatbassador to the entire state of Alaska and the Yukon Territories. 0:40 Thanks for, uh-- And he's also, he and his wife, Lori, are hosting me here. Uh, they've, uh, I just, uh, owe a huge thanks to this cat. Let's have a round of applause for Travis Hubbard. 0:55 [applause] Oh, they, they're going wild for you, Travis. [laughs] Oh, oh. What up, dude? You're up, man, all the way up in Alaska. [laughs] Indeed. 1:09 Man, we, uh, this is, I don't know, day five, four or five, something like that. Yeah. Uh, but the, uh, I came into town, and our first order of business, man, was all about getting [laughs] my bike built. 1:24 I, uh, managed to forget to not pack the, uh, the rotor bolts, and we had to go to a bike shop and get those, get some water bottles that I also forgot to pack. Yep. But other than that, the, uh, Ten Bears 1:41 flew out- flew together, and, uh, we put all the bikes in your truck, and, uh, we headed to Talkeetna. And, uh, where, where, where did we stay? Uh, Susitna River Cabins. Right on. 1:56 And that's, uh, maybe a mile from downtown maybe. Yeah, half mile. Yeah, something like that. It's very close. Yeah. Really nice accommodations, like a two-bedroom cabin with a kitchenette. 2:08 Yeah, we've stayed in worse up there, and we really like, uh, Susitna River Cabins, so we book early. As soon as we know the date, we're on the phone. Yeah. And, uh, man, the snow was just crazy up there. Holy cow. 2:22 We stopped at the, uh, Denali Brewy- Brewery, is that- Yep, the Denali B- Denali Brewing... on, uh, on Friday night and went out for pizza at, uh- Mile High Pizza. Mile High Pizza. And, uh, 2:36 picked up our bibs the next morning and went to the, uh, Talkeetna Roadhouse. Mm. Had a, um- Pancakes. [laughs] The controversial fake man cake of Talkeetna. Tasted real. Yeah, it was really good stuff. 2:53 And, uh, then we saw the snow just kind of go hyperspace. [clears throat] Yeah. Like crazy amounts of snow. Yeah, that's the snowiest storm I've been in this winter, easy. 3:09 [laughs] Uh, and eventually we all lined up and, uh, and I was looking for you guys. I was like, I saw you. You were, like, way in the back. I'm like, "Okay, they're letting everybody else go." 3:21 But I had to get up to get a picture of Greg, and, you know, I used, I was using my little camera and I even zoomed out 'cause I was, I was two-thirds of the way back at the start 'cause I was, I'm no spring chicken and, uh [both laughing] 3:36 I just went into it saying like, "Well, we'll see how things go." [laughs] Exactly. It's the trio. It's just, you just never know what's gonna happen. Right. 3:45 'Cause we had talked a lot about conditions and how previous years the course had, uh, had been much f- You know, there were a lot of, there was a lot of pushing and rutting, and of course that's all, you know, super conditions. 4:00 Uh, that's, you know- Yeah... Mother, Mother Nature conditions. You never know what the day is gonna throw you. That's fat biking, as we say. [laughs] So anyway, I eventually got around that thing. 4:10 I think it was four and a half hours of total time, uh, and h- like three and a half hours of it where I was pedaling or, or at least that's what my, uh, my Wahoo th- thought I was doing. 4:22 [both laughing] Might've been crawling. Um, so and you and Lori went out and did, like, 10 miles of, uh, of, of the course, right? Yeah. It was Lori's first ever bike race in her life. Mm-hmm. 4:36 And, uh, so we agr- you know, I just hung back and was riding with her and gave-- knew we had a couple bailout options if she wasn't, uh, you know, feeling like she had the whole loop in her. Mm-hmm. And, uh, 4:51 given the conditions, that, uh, that option was taken, but we still had, yeah, a great ride. Oh, man. 4:57 What a just a great, perfect time to be outside in the maybe, maybe 20, 24 degrees and snow just coming down windless, really. Like- Yeah. Snow globe. Yeah. Chicken, chicken feathers. 5:14 [laughs] Just chicken feathers- Yeah... falling from the sky- Yeah. And-... and piling up... and reasonably ridable conditions except for, you know, the steeper uphills. 5:25 Greg and crew did a good job on that trail this year- Yeah... for, you know, I didn't get to go through all of it, but the sections that I went through were definitely set up- And the-... 5:37 much better than, than in previous attempts. The hike-a-bike sections 5:42 worked out just exactly how you had described it as, you know, the stairway forms on the left-hand side, and there's a push lane and- Oh, that bootpack it. Yeah. Yep. And, uh- Stairway to heaven. [laughs] There you go. 5:57 Uh, that was the only thing that I had to, uh, I had to, you know, at the beginning I was trying to make some time and, and push on the pushing, and I just had to chill a bit. 6:08 [laughs] Like, "Oh, yeah, I'm not used to, like, running uphill." There's, there's a couple-- And there's a couple steep ridges up there that, you know, that you are bootpacking up. 6:17 Yeah.I was talking to Tim Berntson that-- and he was saying, "You know, when I was pushing my bike, I was like, 'Wait, wait, wait, wait. You have to push your bike?'" [chuckles] He's like, "Yeah. Yeah, absolutely." 6:29 I'm like, "Well, now all right." I have more, uh, you know... We're, we're both human, so that's where the comparisons stop, right? [laughs] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 6:41 As I said and told you previous to the race, yeah, there's places and nobody rides up. Yeah. Yeah. Even with Johnny Five's. [chuckles] Oh. Doesn't matter. Or how fit you are. Right. 6:55 So we all survived that night, and there was a great afterparty and- Hold on. Hold on. Oh, what? Yeah. You skipped over Shangri-La. Oh, yeah. True enough. Yeah. 7:05 I made it out to Shangri-La, and it was like a mile past where they said it was on my Wahoo. It was like mile twelve. But we rode through the course too. Yeah. So, you know, it's not- Right. You're a little off. 7:16 But, so I was just like, "Hmm, I know I'm down by the river." [chuckles] I kinda crashed right, right at the part where you get down to the river. 7:23 I got a little off and just went into a snowbank kinda sideways and was like, "Whoa, wait." [chuckles] It was so deep off that trail. [clears throat] Yeah, it was super fluffy out. Yeah. 7:34 Uh, and then I got down by the river. I'm like, "Okay, all right, that says eleven miles, but I'll just cruise along the river. Here's gotta be-" At some point, you're gonna run into kegs of whiskey. 7:44 [laughs] You can't miss it. I was promised fire, kegs, and whiskey. Yeah. And, uh, sure enough, I, I come around the corner, I see smoke. I'm like, "Yeah." 7:53 And they had, like, two tree trunks freaking smoking and a big fire, and all of the party accoutrements were, uh, were available. There was bike parking all over the place, a bunch of fun, happy people- Mm-hmm... 8:07 enjoying the outdoors, and the snow was just [chuckles] You know, everybody was standing around in, in puffies, so I pulled out my puffy and changed out my hat and gloves and hung out and had, uh, had finished my first bottle of water and finished my first, my first bar and, uh, talked to a bunch of people. 8:27 Greg introduced me around and, uh, then figured, "Well, all right, time to get going, you know, before I get too comfortable." [chuckles] Uh-huh. So, uh, yeah, there was... 8:39 And you had said, you know, "It's-- doesn't let up on you. You got, you got nine miles left." But what, what it really is, is you got five miles of pretty steep up and down. Yeah. 8:51 And then you're back on that beginning part where it's bike trail and road and- Yeah. But the snow on that, on that bike trail and road was like five, six inches deep. Yeah. Yeah. 9:03 Oh, he-- they didn't groom that last stretch along, uh, the road when you came by? Well, there was a groomed part, but the groomed part wasn't necessarily where you wanted to be. Oh. 9:11 You wanted to be where other people had ridden. Right. Uh, so anyway, yeah. It's all good. I, I saw that there w- they had groomed it, though- Yeah... 9:19 uh, and come through 'cause I know they had the groomer running the, the whole time the race was going on. Right. And the, the trails were, by and large, just in awesome shape. It was. 9:28 Yeah, for as much snow that they had to work with to pack- Yeah... uh, you know, that takes a lot of, a lot of winter-long effort up there to make this ride doable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 9:42 And, uh, then- And then Jordy- Oh, yeah, Jordy... 9:45 doing two thousand lunges with a bike and busting through ten-foot ha- high drifts of- Started with two buddies, and, uh, they didn't wanna do the, all the amazing [chuckles] busting of, uh, windswept snow that 10:02 washed out the trail that was on the river and, uh... But Jordy made it through right when I was at Shangri-La. Jordy came in and was kinda like when Norm walks into Cheers. It was like, "Jordy!" "Jordy!" Right. 10:13 But he rode bike-- rode his bike past the camp. So we were like, "Oh." And then he was like, "Psych!" "Psych!" Yeah. Just like Norm would do- Right... on Cheers. But, uh, 10:26 yeah, he-- That's when I first heard the two thousand lunges with Jo- while dragging your fat bike. [chuckles] Up a snow-covered river. [chuckles] He's like, "Yeah, the riding was good. 10:37 You were right on top of it until you weren't." [chuckles] It got mushy and deep. Yeah. I was, uh-- I stepped off the trail all the way up to my waist and then, uh, [clears throat] dropped my phone 10:51 somewhere in there and, uh- Found it somewhere around- Found it, yeah, down about my knees. Nice. [chuckles] Well, and then after a short break, we were, uh-- we went to the hangar, and they did awards. 11:06 And Denali Brewing again had special beer that they, that they brewed, and they put out a really nice Mexican buffet, delicious enchiladas. Yes. One was chicken, and what was the other one? Was it beef? Bean. 11:23 I think it was just- Was it bean? I think it was just bean. I just had one of those. Yeah. But I went back for one more of those chicken ones. It was good. And then, uh, I had-- I got the... Yeah, we, uh... 11:37 [chuckles] Oh, yeah, they gave me the microphone while Greg introduced me and gave me the microphone, and I'm, I'm sure that, you know, in the state of mind [chuckles] that I was in- [laughs]... 11:50 I'm sure I made a lot of sense. I said-- I did say, though, "Thanks for letting me come and play bikes," and that's, that's- Oh, no, you nailed it, man. [chuckles] Thank you. 12:01 You stuck the back flip, hands in the air, [clears throat] nailed it. All right. Well, we'll see. [laughs] Only about, only about fifty, sixty people know. 12:13 So yeah, and then, uh, we closed the night with driving home, and, like, I drove your truck home.As the designated driver. Yep. And, uh- I took full advantage of unlimited Trio IPAs. 12:25 [both laughing] I didn't even want any more, and my wife was still handing them to me. I know. You were like, "One more and I'm out of here. We'll get out of here." And I- Tap out. Tap out... 12:34 I, I saw Laurie come back with, uh... That's, uh, that's Ruger. He's my rent-a-dog. [laughs] Gomez's best canine buddy- Yeah... in Alaska. As Travis said, to knock on the, knock on the, uh, on the workbench. 12:51 We're at Travis's workbench, which is adorned with like a, a... It's like an art gallery of stickers. An army man parachuting with- Oh, yeah. Captain or lieutenant, Lieutenant Goggles. Vegas stripper. 13:08 [laughs] There's a nice painting of a fat bike. Oh, yeah, next to the stripper. Cool Corvus sticker, which I gotta get me one of them. But 13:19 there'll be a photo of us in the show notes, uh, you know, right in front of the fantastic bench. Here where we're going to switch to now- Switching gears... 13:32 we came back to Anchorage, and the next opportunity that we had to ride, we went out to Campbell Track. Now, why do you call this Campbell Track as opposed to why I think of it as Hillside? 13:48 Are they two different places or that, or is it- They kind of are. Yeah. And uh, us locals kind of go by, I guess maybe more so who owns it. Mm-hmm. So the center of that park is BLM land. Mm-hmm. 13:59 And then across the street is Chugach State Park. So [clears throat] Campbell Track Center, as I kind of think of it, is the BLM land in the center, and there is a sh- 14:12 ass load of wonderful trails in there all the way up to Hilltop, and then, uh, to the east is what we call the Bivy, the North Bibwack. Uh-huh. Uh, 14:22 t- more Jeep trails and single track that doesn't really see many bikers in the summer, but in the winter when the snow comes down, it turns into a whole new trail network. Mm. Cool. And then, 14:36 uh, everything above that, uh, the Hilltop Corridor, the big- Mm-hmm... track that, uh, we went across there by the ski area- Mm-hmm... kind of everything above that is what we think of as Hillside. Oh, okay. 14:48 You know, it's kind of all the hillside, but up above Hilltop ski area is where you get into all the Hillside STA, uh, trails. So probably I'm thinking 14:58 Hilltop instead of Hillside, but so Hillside is more of a region of the, of the- Yeah, just kind of the more whole general area- Gotcha. Okay... over there. Yep. All right. Yeah. 15:08 So Campbell Track, we went riding there, and it once again was [laughs] freaking just snowing beautifully- Yeah... the whole, the whole time. Yeah. It was awesome. The p- you know, trail was, was good. 15:18 Couple, two, three inches, uh, of light duff on top. Over refrozen- Over-... nicely ridden in. Gorgeous. [laughs] Yep. Single track. I managed to [laughs] fall off my bike. [laughs] Gomez ate it on Speedway. Yeah. Yeah. 15:35 Ended up trying to, uh, step off as I stalled on a little uphill, and bottomless, uh, bottomless snow there I stepped into, and foof, big crater. Yeah. I think they can see that one from outer space. 15:49 [laughs] Dude, yeah, and you're standing up on the hill taking pictures. I'm like- Oh, yeah... "I'm sure he's gonna come down here and help me out of this." 15:56 Yeah, that's why I had to yell to you, "Hey, you, you do know that I'm up here laughing at you and taking pictures of you and not coming down to help you." [laughs] So I eventually worked my way out of there. Yeah. 16:07 Yeah, you, you, uh, you were out of there pretty quick. Yeah. It wasn't Talkeetna bad, but it was close. [laughs] Yeah, in Talkeetna I went over the bars and was like, "Whoa, yeah, this is deep snow." Like, 16:21 I was like, "Okay, just relax. You'll get out of this." [laughs] Yeah. And, uh, we did about eight miles that day. Yeah. Yeah, we did. And, oh, we went down some just ripping, you know, 16:36 groomed track, like multi-track trails, uh, that, 16:42 ugh, I, I didn't look at what our max speed was, but, you know, just snowing and flying as fast as, as fast as you could risk it on- Yeah... on some of the sweeping turns. 16:56 And the next time we get back up there, it's gonna be even faster. Uh, now we're, we have sunshine, uh, no snow in the forecast till next week, so for the next several days we got beautiful temps. 17:10 People are gonna be out there hammering it. Everything is gonna get packed, and we're gonna definitely come down that again as fast as we can. [laughs] Right on. 17:20 So while we were riding out in some barely groomed Bandito Trail yesterday, uh, I made note of 17:31 the way that you remount when you're standing on really narrow, uh, you call it the white balance beam, right? Yep. So you're trying to get started again. 17:42 Instead of swinging your leg all the way over your, uh, your seat, and y- this is if you don't have a dropper, you like do this, 17:51 do this like, uh, you hold your handlebars, you hold your front brake, and you hip check your seat, and you angle your bike down so you can step over a lower seat height, right? Right. So I thought, and you... 18:08 It's like I did it in the race a bunch of times, and I saw you do it, and I was like, "We, we should come up for, with a name for this." Right. It's like the, the poor man's dropper or the- [laughs]... 18:20 uh, you know, uh-I put down the hip twist, 'cause it's like almost like you hip check your, your seat over- Yeah, you almost gotta have to lay it all the way flat- Mm-hmm... 18:29 in the snow and, and pull it up between your legs and- Oh, so you do that too. Yeah, yeah. 18:34 And then, and, you know, get it down low, pull it through, and then throw that ass end back to where it's sitting on the balance beam, and then get that pedal in the slam position and hope when you step on it things work out [laughs] and that you're not doing it all over again. 18:49 Right. Which I did a bunch of yesterday out on that Bandito Trail. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We, uh, we were riding on really narrow stuff that had only been walked, and skied on, and ridden on previously, but it had... 19:04 I don't know. How much fresh snow do you think was on that before- Uh-... before it was skied in? Like, uh, three, four inches? Yeah, a good three or four inches. Mm-hmm. Yep. So, and only, you know, it... 19:16 This is ridden and groomed trail, no machine grooming, so it is the white balance beam. It's, like, narrow track. It's, it's a foot wide at the widest. 19:26 [laughs] Yeah, at the most, and you, you have to stay on it and- You gotta color inside those lines. Yes. You get outside there and- You're in trouble. Right. [laughs] It's gonna- And it's, it's a lot like the fat rut. 19:38 Mm-hmm. You gotta kinda commit to it and go as fast as you can. So I was running Johnny Fives on Hundreds, and we both were aired down pretty low. Um, I took a second and a half out of what I was running in Talkeetna. 19:55 Um, so what we noticed was that if I rode in front, I kinda groomed it out, and, uh, those tires were just hooking up so well, man. Oh, yeah. 20:09 It was night and day, and I'm running my Dillinger Fours, uh, maybe with still a little too much air in them. Yeah. But, uh, the hookup, watching you track on those tires, 20:22 night and day difference in between of what I was doing behind you, which was dabbing all over the damn place and doing my poor man dropper's move. [laughs] So is that what we're gonna call it? 20:34 We should, we should probably put it out to the, uh, to the folks out there, too. If you have a name that you'd like to suggest for this, uh, poor man's dropper or, uh, the, uh... I had the hip twist or... It's... 20:46 W- I think dropping the bike, too, is a good point that, that you really do lower the whole bike. Yeah. So maybe the hip, hip drop or something. Right. I don't know. Hip drop mount. [sniffs] Slop drop, hip hop. 21:00 [laughs] Something like that. Um, so Johnny Fives on Hundreds, man, I, I said it in my, uh, in my review. I just checked it today, 'cause Travis had said, "Have you reviewed those tires?" 21:14 [laughs] I'm like, "Yeah, I reviewed them." I knew you had a product spotlight out. I didn't know if you'd final- put a final out, yeah. 21:19 I had, I had reviewed them, and I did say, though, that I'd be taking th- them to Alaska and seeing how they did up here, and so far all I can say is, like, wow, man. [laughs] Good choice. 21:31 Like, I would say secret weapon. Yeah. Well, you know, there's a guy out on the ITI Trail right now named Nicholas Carman. Mm-hmm. He's not entered in the race. Mm-hmm. He's a friend of yours, and you know him well. 21:43 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, and, uh, is, you know, world-renowned for his, uh, cycling exploits, and he's just riding to Nome for fun, 21:53 and, uh, last year he rolled the Johnny Fives and just ranted and raved in his posts about how that is the tire- Hmm. Nice... for Alaska in particular. 22:05 Yeah, and just to be, you know, completely honest, I, I've known Nicholas, and we've met a couple times. We went for a ride d- in, uh, Kincaid my first trip here. I wouldn't say I know him well. Yeah. 22:15 You know, it's like, you know. Well, you know everybody well. [laughs] You're Gomez, man. Well, I, you know, I like to be friends with a lot of people 'cause he does cool stuff, man. Yeah. Cool stuff. 22:27 Nicholas really does. Yeah. He's done some, uh, just mind-blowing, amazing adventures, all kinds of foreign countries and far-flung parts of the earth. Indeed. That guy lives his, lives his life on a bike. 22:42 Yeah, very much so. And works at a shop here, uh, in town. Yep, The Bicycle Shop. Right on. On Northern Lights, the original store. Yep. All right. Well, I think that about closes... 22:55 That, that's the end of my outline here, but we're gonna come back after a break, and we're gonna talk about more stuff at a little bit later date. So, uh, stay tuned. [upbeat music] Hey, welcome back to the show. 23:08 We're, we're, uh, uh, we're in Travis's garage, dude. Woo! It's, it's the... It's Travis's garage, uh, special edition of the Spacey Danger Gnome Podcast. Yeah, we added Spacey in there 'cause, you know... 23:26 I don't know why. Why, why, Travis? [laughs] Because the skies are clear and the stars are soon to come out. Oh, my God, we've... So much has happened since we took a break. [laughs] You've been busy. 23:39 On the, on the other side of the commercial, uh, or during that commercial, uh, we'll just go over a few things. Wednesday, uh, Greg Mattis from Fat Pack Bikes and Speedway invited me to go... 23:50 well, invited Travis and I to go on a ride, uh- Mm-hmm... with Tim Berntson, and, uh, Clinton Hodges is gonna be there, and Chris- Chris Jones... uh, right, and several other people. And, uh, Travis was like, "No way. 24:06 Those guys are gonna kill you." [laughs] And I was like, "No way am I gonna be the anchor on that speedboat." [laughs] But they, they... 24:14 I tried to keep up for a while, and then I was like, "I have to be the rider who I really am" [laughs] And be like-Uh, I'll just catch up. Uh- And-- But they, they chilled their pace, and it was, it was all good. 24:27 We did eight some miles, and, like, we made it to frigging Whiskey Island. The Whiskey Island. I have been to Whiskey Island, and Travis has not. I have not. But we might go there tomorrow. Yeah. 24:39 Yeah, we'll end up there tomorrow. Yeah. And now that the COVID-19 virus has infiltrated the great state of, uh... What? [sniffs] Alaska. Alaska. Alaska. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you know, Whiskey Island rules have all changed. 24:55 Right. No longer are we all just taking big chugs off of the- Sucking off the bottle and passing it around. Yeah. Think about this, kids. This is gonna change the whole way that even, like, weed smoking's done. Yeah. 25:09 It's crazy. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, bring your own. Peace. [laughs] Ah, chihuahua. Ah, chihuahua. But, uh, that, that went well. And I, I didn't die, and I, I sure got one hell of a ride. 25:22 And, and I got to ride, I got to ride Polar Bear, which we rode today, which is frigging... Or, or you like to call it Paper Plate. Paper Plate. Same trail. Same trail. Different name. Um, but, uh, Thursday- Mm... 25:36 the big news came in from, you know, the, the coronavirus is happening. And, uh, so we, we did a quick Bandito loop, and then we-- I was like, "Hey, can you take me to the store? 25:49 I'm out of, like, Life cereal and, and yogurt." [both laughing] And I was like, "Yeah, no problem, man." Yeah, let's go. We'll run, we'll go get some groceries, right? Let's run down to the store. 25:57 And as we're driving down to the store, I turn on the radio to hear the breaking news of Alaska's first coronavirus case. And I was like, "Oh, this will be interesting." And we got to my local shopping market. 26:12 And on a Thursday afternoon at 3:30 PM, there were, like, no carts. [chuckles] Yeah. And- 'Cause everybody was dragging three. [chuckles] Yep. There was no toilet paper and stuff. No. 26:24 We, we don't have to worry about that for- Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You were a week ahead of time. Yeah. Yeah. Your, your prepper instincts. Right. It's like animals can anticipate when there's gonna be an earthquake. Right. 26:40 Well, my dog Rigger was, uh... I could tell. It's like, "Dude, you need more toilet paper." [both laughing] Two weeks ago. 26:47 And we're, we're in the garage here, where over there is also a flat of beer and a s- [both laughing] and a tray of Hendrick's Gin, dude. Yeah. Well, if, you know- Travis does-... 26:58 you're gonna buy Hendrick's Gin, if you buy beer by the six-pack, why not buy a fifth of Hendrick's Gin by the six-pack? Travis does it right, ladies and gentlemen. That's all I can tell you. 27:10 And you've been just guiding me around. Like, I can-- When we go on rides, I can just turn my brain off and ride bikes and have fun. [chuckles] It's- Yeah. It's the best. Zero need for navigation on your part, my friend. 27:24 Right. Yeah. You guys are all talking, you know, talking, "Well, should we go this way, that way?" I'm like, "I just follow." Right. It's like, "Yeah, let's go." Yeah. And we-- Oh, man. 27:34 Everywhere we went was fricking great. Yeah. Conditions here are primo. S- Super-- And temperatures have moderated now. 27:45 Uh, the first part of when I was here, up until the Glacier ride, were a bit nippy, but, you know, nothing we're not used to. Not below zero, just, eh, cold. Below zero in the mornings. Right, yeah. Yep. 27:57 Some-- We saw some 10, 12, 15 below. Mornings, but the sun is back. Yeah. The orb is here. We are soaking up vitamin D. And yeah, the temps are coming back up during the day. The sun is working. Yeah. 28:12 And we're not going above freezing, so all of this styrofoam groomed ridden-in snow is just gonna stick around and- Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. So, uh, I got to ride a little bit of crust on Friday. 28:30 Uh, Christina Grande from, uh, Alaskan, Alaska, Alaskan Bike Adventures, right? Alaskan Bike Adventures, uh, guided me out to the Knik Glacier. 28:44 Uh, Tra- Travis freaking set the whole freaking thing up and then had to work. Uh, but I got to go. 28:52 And this was the beginning of the bluebird day, but, uh, I think the average temperature on my, uh, Wahoo was 23 degrees. Um, so it was brisk. Yep. We had to, like, ride a mile into it. Had to cross a creek. So we put 29:10 big garbage bags on our feet and walked across. And so we knew it was shallow enough to-- When we rode back, we were like, "Ah, we'll just ride across." Um, but then it's about nine miles out to the glacier. 29:22 [laughs] To the glacier, says Bear. [laughs] Yeah. And, uh, you know, snowmobile trail, been ridden in. Um, couple other groups of riders out there. Yeah. 29:37 [laughs] On the way out there, we saw, we saw some dudes on, uh, snow machines, and they had a guy on skis, uh, basically water-skiing kind of behind the snow machine. Right. The whole way out there, dude. Towing him. 29:51 Yeah. Like, his arms had to be freaking sore [both laughing] nine miles out to the glacier. Man, that's a long tow, man. Yeah. That's a long tow on a pair of skis behind a snow machine. 30:02 [both laughing] Yeah, but then you get out to... And you're basically riding up the river over a big moraine. And, uh, then you open up, and you see the whole face of that blue ice glacier. 30:19 And you go down into the lake where these big chunks of ice have calved off. And you can ride right up to them, and there's windows, and it's, it's just-Man, as a photographer it was just like [laughs] 30:36 You got some great pixels- Yeah... while you were out there. Yeah, yeah. Definitely, you know, some Wallpaper Wednesday worthy, uh, portraiture of- Yes... 30:46 uh, Christina's, uh, Otso Voi Tech and, and Ten beers, which is a Fatback Corvus FLT. Yep. All merged out into the blackity blackness of the Black Rib- Bike Black Ribbon Society. 31:02 With the deep blue ice cubes. Yeah. A blue sky, and the sky was actually bluer than the ice, so it's nice that they didn't choose the same matchy-matchy blue- Right... 31:13 'cause then it would be like, "Whoa, where's the ice start?" Whoa. "Where's the sky start, man?" So that was a cool ride. That was a little bit over 20 miles. We rode across the creek. 31:24 I got some great pictures of Christina riding across the creek, and then, uh, we came back, and Laurie had to work, like, 28 hours [laughs] straight. 31:36 Uh, so- My wife, my wife's, uh, works at a hospital, and things have been, uh- Crazy... a tad bit crazy. Uh, 31:44 but what was more disappointing was right when you got home and I had to tell you that the city of Anchorage shut down all public places pretty much, 'cause you and I were going to the Snow Flyer exhibit. Right. 31:56 That's not gonna happen. Where they have the history of fat biking right on a wall for you. But you know what? I was thinking about it. I've, I've seen a lot of it- Mm-hmm... before. Yeah. 32:05 And you covered a bunch of it, too. Mostly, mostly stuff from Gr- yeah, Gr- from Speedway. From Speedway, yeah. In Greg's in-house museum that's... Anybody can go see every day. Right on. Yep. 32:16 The, uh, but the, one of the cool things is that, uh, they had that, um, they brought together the pioneers of, of fat biking- Yeah... and had a presentation, and you were there. Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. 32:29 Yeah, a hundred percent. Greg, and Andy, and, uh, Roger Cowell, and, uh, who else was there that I'm forgetting that I shouldn't? Um, yeah, talking about the, the old school days and, and, uh, smashing 32:45 rims together to try to get float, and all the struggle to get to the point of where we are today on our 30-something pound- Right, where they were pushing-... symmetrical... 32:58 they were pushing bikes a lot back in those days. Yeah, yeah. Unless it was ideal, like riding on river ice or whatever. Right. Or really, really well-groomed, super packed snow machine trail. Yeah. Yep. 33:11 Well, you know, all the dicey snow conditions have, have made fat bikes a thing, I think. You know? Absolutely. Anywhere, anytime. Dirt, snow, shitty snow- Ax... 33:29 ax snow. [laughs] So, uh, today, today's ride, my man, I like, I've- Oh, man... I, uh, [laughs] 33:39 I lobbied hard for this, like, to go back to Camel Trek, 'cause we rode it on Monday, and it was just like, we had such a bitching ride on Monday. Yeah. I was like, "I wanna go back there." It's like the snow is firm. 33:51 There's single track. There's, there's multi-use that, like, has a r- that we did that ripping downhill, but, uh, and that's where, uh, the Wednesday ride that I did with Greg Maddis was as well. Yeah. The, 34:06 the beauty of winter fat biking, and Camel Trek's a perfect example of that, is all the bootleg trails that go in that you would never, ever dream of even touching with a bike, 34:18 but when you get a couple feet of base down, suddenly it's this entirely new tapestry, and people are out there po- you know, packing in, putting in all kinds of crazy, wonderful single track. 34:31 We rode eight and a half miles today, and we hardly did... I mean, it was 90% single track. Right. We were never on the multi-use tr- Yeah... on this trail today. Yeah. 34:41 And we, you know, we circumnavigated that entire area- Yep... that, that's out there, uh, riding a trail called, uh, Paper Plate or Polar Bear, uh, just- Speedway. Ram Bone. Well, and- Chicka bow bow, chicka bow. 34:59 [laughs] Yeah, Speedway. I saw the crater that I left on- Ooh... on Monday. Like, "There's my crater." I was... You didn't hear... I was up in front of you hollering out. You, that, you ripped that section, dude. 35:11 I was like, "Where the hell did Travis go?" Ah, I love- You put the retro rockets on. Yeah, I love coming, you know, down Speedway versus going up. 35:20 It is such fun, zippy single track in there, and right now, you know, the conditions are just premium. Yeah. You can roll with confidence, 35:30 uh, and yeah, keep a little more speed and- And what was the name of the trail that I was saying, like, I was like, "So much brake turning here." Oh, [laughs] that was that. You know, using your brakes to turn. 35:42 That was, that was Ram Bone. That was Ram Bone. Okay. That was Ram Bone. Yeah, that was my first time through there. 35:48 I, I think I've done some other variations, and I wonder if maybe in different winters somebody puts a different trail through those trees, but 35:57 it's so tight and twisty, yeah, you gotta, you know, uh, brake check, slide, settle. [laughs] Yeah. You know, we were hitting trees, bouncing off 'em. Yeah, there were- Hoping your handlebars fit between them... 36:10 there were a bunch of spots where I pachinko'd through there. [laughs] Yeah. Ping. Yeah, there's- Like you hit both bars between, like rattle through there. Right. Yeah, there were some d- Like pinball... some dings. 36:21 Yeah. But just the perfect amount of, I don't know, slide. Yeah. You know? It wasn't, you weren't locked up on... Especially in the single track sections. Right. You know? 36:33 There, there was-But you weren't moving six inches and washing out. You were just always continuously kinda sliding around about a three-quarters of an inch to a- Right... inch and two, inch and two-thirds. 36:45 Constantly keeping you- Yeah... you know, on alert and edge and, uh, but yeah, the, and the fat rut- Right... it was, uh, ever present. And a bit, a bit of the white balance beam, but- Yeah... 36:56 much, man, just ridden in and grooved in. Yeah. I'm, I mean, you can't smack the grin off my face- [laughs]... for the ride we had today. It was, it was awesome. And we rode with your buddy, Al. Yeah, Al Heckert. 37:09 Who, who you kn- who you, you've known since what? Ninth grade, you said? Yeah. Yep. Right? Since ninth grade. And Ken. Ken Best, um, uh, with, uh, Fat Bikes Alaska on- Oh, cool. On Instagram, right? On, on the Bookface. 37:24 Facebook. Oh. Facebook too. Yeah. Yeah. Fat Bikes Alaska. Little shout-out there. You can go check out Ken. Ken's a good dude. He, we- Yeah... super good dude. 37:30 We had, and you know, the four of us really had good rhythm, and we stuck together, and- Frigging Al was shooting video and all kinds of... He was just pulling out this [laughs] he has the longest selfie stick in Alaska. 37:43 [laughs] Chicka bow bow. Little shout-out to Al out there with the- Yep. Yeah. Yeah, buddy. [laughs] Well, and then we had, you know, our, our, uh, our random people that we ran into, um- Oh, yeah. Yeah. 37:56 We said we had to write it down, but, uh, we ran into Andrew Cunningham, uh, winner of the Iditasport a couple years ago. Yep. Uh, and my Facebook, uh, friend, and... 38:06 No, I think we probably follow each other on the Strava too. I know you like to hear that. Uh-huh. [laughs] Um, so yeah. Ran into Andrew out there. He was fresh off the ITI, and, uh, [clears throat] excuse me. God. 38:22 Corbin. [laughs] Uh, so we chatted for a long time. I felt bad. I was like- Ooh, we're passing on a bridge, and you guys, like, spot each other. Like, it- So we're just random. You know, we're riding. 38:33 We're a group of four. Right. This guy goes by, and then, uh, you know, we pull over. I'm like, "Are you Andrew?" And he's like... Well, we had stopped to take, we had stopped to take- Oh... a group shot. 38:43 Yeah, we were stopped, and he was coming through. We'll have to put the group shot in the show notes right here. That's right. Where I'm like, I'm, like, looking up and [laughs] not looking in the camera. 38:50 [laughs] So yeah. I look, uh, I look weird in the picture. Sorry. My apologies for looking weird, but, you know, sorry. [laughs] Anyway, so I'm like, "Are you Andrew?" 39:03 'Cause I, you know, you got all, you got sunglasses on, you got a helmet on. Yeah. But I'm like, "I know this guy." 39:09 You know, I, when we interviewed him after he won the race, and we're friends on Facebook, so I see pictures of him. And where he's like, "Are you Gomez?" I'm like, "Yeah, dude" Yeah. So, uh- So yeah, we hung out. 39:19 You guys- Yeah. We chatted a bit... chatted it up. Yeah, yeah. Yep. And then we were rolling down, uh, Paper Slate, Paper Plate/Polar Bear. Right. Ran into Dusty from- Ran into, ran into Dusty from Revelate. Right. 39:31 Quite right. Yeah. And I didn't recognize him exactly. I'm like, "That could be" But then he was like, "Is it Gomez?" I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, it's Dusty" Yeah. 39:39 And that's, Dusty's married to Christina Grande as well, who I had ridden the Kenai Glacier with the day before. Day before. Yeah. Oh, dude, and on Wednesday night's ride, we rode by, we rode by Will Ross. 39:50 But I didn't have it, like, I had, like, the complete all-star, uh, Alaskan, like, rock stars of- [laughs]... of the ITI ride with, and, you know, who do I ride up on? Will Ross. Yeah. 40:05 I'm like, "Well, uh- "Will, you don't recognize me. It's Gomez" Right. But, you know, we were on a freight train going the other direction. And, um, yeah. I'm sure he, and he was probably on his 25-pound Trek. Yeah. 40:17 Yeah. You know, whatever- Had his dog with him... supermodel he's currently riding and racing and winning on. Yeah. You know. 40:23 Just fresh back from the Fatbike Birke, which we should probably at this point, dude, I gotta do a shout-out to- Yeah... Leia Schneeberger and Cory Steljes, uh, winners of the Fatbike Birke. 40:38 Wisconsinites, both Madisonians. Woo-hoo. And, uh, both, uh, have, uh, been on the show before. And, uh, man, way to go. Way to go. Leia, Leia- Congratulations... Leia actually just finished an undefeated 40:56 fat bike season. Um, that, that, that's, that's- Snap... like, every race she entered, and she was, is not shy about, you know, she doesn't just, like, hang out in, like, little local races. 41:08 She enters all the big races, and she, uh, undefeated this year. That's awesome. So the Ice Queen, congratulations, co-host of the- The Ice Queen Gomez... Joseph Ham podcast. And, uh, congratulations to Cory. 41:22 Cory's wife took, uh, third place in the Birke, and, uh, Chris Stevens, also a Wisconsinite, took second place. 41:32 My apologies for a- anyone that I've missed, and we're doing this off the cuff in Travis's garage under the influence- [laughs]... of liquor and God knows what else. So can we say this here? 41:43 Can we say we, we, you know, are partaking in the illegal substances that are here in the, uh, uh... What am I trying to say? We are legally well, my friend. [laughs] We are legally well. Yeah. 41:54 I feel quite well, thank you. [laughs] That's what I'm saying. I told you. The Travis's garage. I was like, I was like, "Gomez, you're gonna be so well- [laughs]... in Alaska" [laughs] It's like Steve Martin. 42:06 I, I thought about this. So small. I'm so small right now. [laughs] So, uh, what, and tomorrow we're going back- Back... to the Camel Trek and just, uh- Yep... 42:20 riding even more ridiculous offshoots of- I've already got our ride and my vision for tomorrow. And we gotta, I think we gotta get a picture of us at Whiskey Island. Yeah, for sure. The two of us. Yeah. 42:32 And we'll put that in the show notes, and then, oh yeah, all your dreams will come true. Right? I don't know.To win a million dollars? If you have the dream of seeing a [laughs] picture of us at Whiskey Island- Right... 42:43 uh, with, with masks on and nitrile gloves and- Yeah... I don't know. Uh, yep. Bikes, couple of fat backs. We've been riding. It was like, it's like ebony and ivory too. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Your Skookum- Very much... 42:57 and my Corvus. Yep. Um, oh, yeah, you know what else I got to do? I got to try, first time on this trip, is I got to ride in Expedition Pogies. Yeah. Yeah. To the Knik Glacier. Yeah. 43:10 'Cause Christina and, uh, Alaskan Bike Adventures- Hooked you up with, uh- Yeah, hooked me up. And we didn't talk about, like, Christina brought warm cider out to the, out to the glacier. 43:23 So when we got there, and it w- like the, the last third of the way out there was a little bit against the wind, and that wind is coming off the glacier, so- Brr [laughs]... it's, it's not a warm wind [laughs]. 43:35 So I'm like- Brr, man [laughs]... the other day, the other day we're riding so, we were riding the Bandito, and you're like- Yeah... "Yeah, Gomez." Like [laughs] I want you- Pretend you're in the ITI, bro. 43:47 [laughs] Pretend you're in the ITI. As we were crossing a swamp, and the north wind was howling [laughs]. So I'm like, "Oh, yeah." Um, Travis' voice is in my head as I'm, like, plugging along against the wind. 43:59 I'm like, "Oh, yeah. I could just close my eyes- Right... imagine myself." Right. Yeah, no. But anyway, uh, so nice warm drink, and the, uh, Expedition Pogies are super nice. 44:11 There's a, there's a pocket you can, like, keep stuff in there. Oh, really? Inside? And... Yeah, well, it, it says- Instead of just chucking your shit in... on the- That's awesome... on the, on the bottom of the outside. 44:21 Okay. And then there's lots of room to keep stuff inside. I kept, like, a hand warmer and my, uh, RX bar in there. Yep. And, uh, you know, I'd make sure that- And it wasn't frozen when you bit into it? 44:33 No, it was actually, it was, it was straight up temp. Room temp. But I still started out with those stupid soft shell coats. [laughs] And my hands were cold. But as soon as- Yeah... 44:43 I put on those, just the, I just had rag wool gloves, that's like, that's the hot setup. We're gonna do probably a gnome-proof gear on, uh, those gloves. Yeah. Mark it here. Chico, ba-ting. 44:55 At 21 minutes and 51 seconds, Gomez said- [laughs]... "Wool gloves are the shit." [laughs] Wool. Wool. Yeah. Yeah, spun by gnomes. It's not just for your ass anymore [laughs]. [laughs] It's not just for your girlfriend. 45:11 It's for you too. Yes. Even the scratchy stuff. Oh, it's so nice today. Yeah. Lightly layered. You know, pretty much every place we stopped and chilled, the sun was beating down upon us and just- Mm... 45:25 totally comfortable. Lots of, lots of locals out. We saw a couple that had to be in their 70s- Yeah... riding out there. Easy, easy. Mid-70s, I would say. Yeah. Yep. And, uh- Still out getting it... 45:39 saw just a ton of fun people. They all- Yeah. And, and skiers and, and- Walkers, hikers... bikers and walkers, all no hassles. Uh, everybody just really kinda, like, embracing the sun. Yeah. 45:53 It's like the Beatles "Here Comes the Sun" song should be in here. Well- Do, do, do, do [laughs] Well, when we pulled into the parking lot, I was like, "Is there a race or- [laughs]... 46:02 is there some other dog mushing thing going on here today?" True that. Yeah. 'Cause I've never parked so far away at that trailhead that- Yeah, we got, we-... we got one of the last places we could park. Right. 46:12 Al, Alan, and- And, yeah, Al came... and, and Ken rode, rode from home or- Yeah. Yeah. Ken rode from home. Right on. Yep. 46:20 And our ride today was two and a half hours of, uh, of total time, and, uh, an hour and a half of, of riding time. And- Right. Just- Yeah, it was a nice mix up... oh my God, super pleasure, fun riding, dude. 46:36 And the thing about- Yeah... the four of us, like, really had a good rhythm together. Yeah. You know? Yeah, very much so. Yeah. Yep. We're, uh, yeah, it was, you know, uh- Nobody was waiting for anybody. It was like-... 46:51 not a train we were on. It was just- No... yeah, we were all cruising, we're all staying tight and having cool breaks, meeting new people, 'cause- Oh, yeah, I was running for mayor... 47:00 Celebrity Gomez is running for mayor of Anchorage [laughs]. Yeah. We should probably shout out to Bill Fleming, who that, what I always accused him of running for mayor of, uh [laughs]... 47:09 And I would vote for Bill Fleming for mayor- Oh, I would totally vote for Bill... of Anchorage. Yeah. Uh, so, you know, that was me today. Oh, hey. Hi. [laughs] Aren't you... 47:20 And somehow out of my, like, addled brain [laughs], you know? Yeah. Being so well here in, in Alaska, I've like pulled [laughs] people's names right out of the... "Hey, aren't you Andrew?" Yeah. Like, man. 47:33 Which is, you know, amazing. Yeah. I could be introduced to someone, and two seconds later I'm like, "Oh, what's your name?" How cool is that? A, a Facebook friend- Yeah, it's neat... that's an accomplished rider. Yeah. 47:43 And randomly run into him on the neighborhood trails. Uh, yeah, and you recognize him and- I, on the-... hang out, shoot the shit... 47:51 on the Knik Glacier ride, Jill Homer was, uh, one of the people that we ran to, ran into out there, just fresh off her, uh, her walk to McGrath. Right. Uh, through the, like, most incredibly- Horrible... 48:04 horrible conditions. Shit start. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, just unbelievably wind and snow and, uh- Subzero, ultra subzero temperatures with windchill. Yeah. Yeah. It was dangerous out there this year. Yeah. 48:18 And, and right after that, the, like [laughs] the day after she stopped doing that, she's out doing a 20-mile ride and- To a glacier... to the gla- to the glacier. The, yes, the glacier. I wonder if they had hot cider. 48:31 Probably not, 'cause they- No, I imagine they had red wine, cheese, and lamb, Diego. They probably brought their own stuff. [laughs] But, dude-Alaskan Bike Adventures, Christina Grande. 48:44 They just came back from doing a tour of the Whites. Yeah. Um, so if you're down there, if you, and you're out there listening, uh, I've done some things up here that you gotta come up here and do. 48:57 Come and get a glacier tour with, with Christina. She's super- Super knowledgeable. Right? She gets you safely in and out. Yeah. Um- She had us on the GPS. Yeah. 49:09 She knew exactly which way to go because I'm Captain Wrong Way Peach Fuzz. Right. [laughs] She kept me in front so she- Right... could keep an eye on me, and then when I got off course she's like, "Uh- Oh. 49:19 "Uh, Gomez, it's, uh, this way." This way. Oh, hey. Yeah. Thank you. Right. Again, I could just turn off my brain, dr- have a hot, hot drink when I got to the glacier. [laughs] Right. Doesn't get any better than that. 49:32 Yeah. Yeah. You've had a, a- Yeah... an amazing Alaskan adventure. Yeah, no kidding. For sure. Yeah, in part one we talked about the Talkeetna Trio, where we had the, um, you know, real life. 49:46 The, The Matrix made it, made it, like- [laughs]... a snow globe of- Winter wonderland. Yes. Two nights. Two feet of snow between Friday night and Sunday morning. And now we've had a series of 49:59 below freezing, beautiful, sunny, fun- Yeah... with, with conditions that are just, like- The next couple weeks-... off the charge best [laughs]... depending, you know. Yeah, we're getting to that point, the freeze thaw. 50:13 What we had, that was pretty unconsolidated base for a good while- Mm-hmm... because we got so much snow that came down at cold temperatures. Now everything's, that snow is f- you know, getting to the freeze thaw. 50:25 Air's coming out of there. The snow's packing down. And we're getting still cold at night, so the trails are s- staying set up. It's, like I said, I wish- So mark it on your calendar... I wish March would last forever. 50:37 March next year, you know? Yeah. Fly to Anchorage, s- stay in, uh, Travis' garage- [laughs]... for like, you know, $500 a night. Yeah. Yeah. [laughs] It's, uh, it's an affordable rate. 50:51 [laughs] It's nice and warm in here, so. Yeah. Keep it toasty. Yeah. And we'll have a... I, I took a picture already of, uh, of Travis' garage. He's got this kickass, like, 51:04 sticker montage to, uh, wellness and- Bikes... beer and- Beer and- Fatbike.com. [laughs] The Bike Black Ribbon Society. Hell yeah. And, uh, a series of, uh, pink and red Rogue beer McThingers. 51:22 Yeah, that was a nice crazy, wacky f- series of flavor thing that they put out. It was fun. So we have a, we have a, a beer here. Pleasure Town IPA, and it's from- That's the show beer... Midnight Sun. Yep. 51:38 That's the show beer today. Uh, it's got a picture of, uh, it looks like the dude from Chicago Fire with his whitey tighties [laughs] in his hand. He's riding a moose, and then there's- Naked. Naked. Yeah. True spenard. 51:54 [laughs] It's an India pale ale. What do you know about this beer? Uh, I know it's, uh, regularly in my fridge. Yeah. [laughs] Uh, tastes great. It's less filling. Um- [laughs]... 52:09 I think it's, like, kinda on the lighter side of the IPAs. You know, not the heavy- It's more a session... hitting, like- Yeah... 7.5. I kinda think of it as more of a session, you know? Mm-hmm. 52:18 More like a six percenter. Just easy, smooth swillin'. It's delicious. Wonderful creation. Yeah. Yeah, it's got a drunk dude riding a moose with his whitey tighties, so it's my favorite Can Man artwork. 52:31 And there was no panic buy at the liquor store. No, no there wasn't. People, like, one for... Like, the- It's- Come on, dudes. You- Yeah. You're, you're buying out toilet paper. I said Travis did it right. Yeah. 52:42 But you're not, you don't have- A flat of gin... a proper beer supply. [laughs] A flat of gin, a flat of King Street IPA. That's a good start. Yeah. Yep. Beef jerky. Yeah. Landjaeger. Oh, yeah, those Landjaegers. 52:55 They're like, I flew 2,500 miles from home to find my home sausage- [laughs]... right here. That didn't come out right, but you know what I'm talking about, sausage lovers. 53:07 [laughs] Oh, we're going into the, into the full spectrum thing where they talk about meat. [laughs] Yes. Let's get meaty. Yeah. We cooked some filets on the grill tonight. Oh, yeah. 53:19 And had this, set for the second time, these huge scallops. Mm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Alaska. Yeah. Good stuff. Yeah. 53:28 We s- we, we gotta, we gotta go out, and if Lori can come with, we gotta go out for crab legs or something, dude. Yeah. Last time I went to Humpy's and it was pretty damn good. Yep. Well, let's see. 53:42 Uh, yeah, well- Got any ideas? Um, yeah, I got an idea. I can go to Costco 'cause- Oh, yeah... I, I'm sure that's, like- Yeah... the one thing people aren't stocking up on- Yeah. It is... is, you know- Right... 53:53 30, $40 a pound king crab. Sure. Right. And, uh- They have crab here as big as your arm. Screw you, Wisconsin. [laughs] Oh, it's, it's- Yeah... it's just gluttonous debauchery at its best. All right. 54:09 Um, and, uh- That's what we're talking about... and we can steam those up right here in the kitchen. Goddamn. All right. Well- We'll need twice as much crab than what Humpy's would charge us for. All right. Sounds good. 54:21 Yeah. I got no, I got no, you know, reason to go down to- And, and-... to downtown. And we maintain- Now that they, now that the fucking-... hashtag social distancing Oh, yeah. True that. Here we are- Right... 54:35 in Travis' garage. There was no social distancing going on out there today. We were four guys flying through the forest on a fat bike within six feet of each other. Mm. Sometimes, yes. Yeah. At times. Mm-hmm. 54:47 But, you know, we're up here having fun on bikes. Yep. You're somewhere else listening to us. Hopefully, you know, listen, listen to us on, on... when you ride your bike sometimes. Can I give a shout-out? Oh, hell yeah. 55:01 Irv. [laughs] I am so gonna spank you, brother. Ooh. Mm-hmm. Irv Spanks. Break out- My buddy... break out the diplomatic flags, brother. Yeah, man. Brother. I'ma hook you up too. 55:11 Irv, you should come up here because Christina Grande- Mm-hmm... who shares your last name- Yeah... uh, could take you out to the glacier, and maybe she'll bring you some hot coffee or something. Or maybe- Right... 55:23 maybe one of these fancy, uh, Midnight Sun Pleasure Town IPAs. And then when you're done, you can come back to Travis' garage and make sure your wellness factors- Yeah... are all in place. Mm-hmm. That's right. 55:38 All right, kids. Uh, till next time, this is Uncle Gomez and- Travis, the fat ambassador to the entire state of Alaska and the Yukon territories, uh, bidding you farewell and, uh, buenas suerte. 55:56 Good evening, my friends. 56:03 [outro jingle]