Transcript 0:02 Welcome to the second episode of the Burning Bike Podcast. I'm your host, Spinner. We recorded this episode in Austin, Texas. Um, my friend Chewy and I went down to Austin. We are hosting Single Speed USA. 0:20 Um, we're part of the crew hosting Single Speed USA in Texas this year, um, in a little ranch called Smithville. Um, Single Speed USA has been around for-- We can't really decide if it's been 0:33 eleven years, thirteen years. Um, the-- Single Speed USA started out as a race to make fun of racing. Um, 0:43 started by, I think it's actually a group in Minneapolis, Gene Overpillar and some others, and Chewy was probably a part of that thing as well. Um, but, uh, no gears allowed. Um, 0:55 there are three different parts to the race. There is-- You can win the race, which really doesn't mean anything. You can be the fastest single speeder, um, out there and... 1:06 [laughs] I apolo- I'm recording this piece of the podcast at Levis Mound and, uh, during the aftermath of Gnome Fest on Sunday morning, so if I'm distracted, I apologize. 1:17 Um, so yeah, the first part is the, the race, which is the event where you ride. Um, the second part is the championship, which is usually a derby or foot down, depending on where you're at. 1:29 Um, last year out in New York, it was actually quite an elaborate cyclocross little course where, um, teams, or I guess heats of people [laughs] rode through a, 1:40 a gauntlet of getting whipped with pool noodles, and you had to jump through a kiddie pool full of little rubber ducks. 1:45 And, um, I don't remember exactly how it went, but, uh, I had the belt the year before, and I lost it to a guy named Jay Drasher out of Pennsylvania, who is coming back to Austin to defend his belt this year. 1:57 And then there is the hosting competition. So, um, when you attend, you can sign up to host for your state. Um, Wisconsin, let's see, there was a while here when I did my first Single Speed USA in Minnesota. 2:12 Um, it was hosted in Winona, um, by the Twenty-Nine and Single group, team. I don't know what they're, what they're [laughs] actually called, club. 2:22 Um, and that was won, uh, by a team in Michigan, and I think the finals came down to Hammerschlagen. Um, then it went up to Michigan and the UP in Copper Harbor. 2:31 Um, the final tournament-- Well, just as an example, one of the tournaments up there was, um, one of the games, there was two piers that went out into, um, 2:43 Lake Superior, and you had to swim across to the other pier, chug a beer, put your can down on the pier, swim back, and then shoot the can off the pier with a BB gun. Um, that was a lot of fun. 2:56 It was dangerous having a lot of drunk cyclists, um, shooting people or ha- giving them BB guns and letting them play, but it was a lot of fun besides. 3:04 Um, and then Wisconsin won that hosting tournament, um, controversial win. Um, I think they called it bucket wrestling, where a group of four guys, you have a partner across from you, and 3:18 everybody holds arms, and you have to kick a bucket out from underneath somebody. It's a little foggy, to be honest with you. 3:23 So, um, but then it came to Wisconsin, where the finals, the hosting was a roller derby, uh, next to Levis Mound, where we're at today. Um, what else did I want to say about single speeds? 3:35 Um, it's a lot of fun, and basically, if you win the hosting, you're agreeing to bring all of your rowdy friends to a place that you know, a place that you ride, not necessarily your town, um, and making sure that there's gonna be somewhere to ride. 3:51 If you want to race, that's fine, but you're gonna ride some cool trails in a town that you've never been before. Well, I shouldn't say that, but it, it gives you a reason to go somewhere. 3:58 So this year, it's gonna be hosted in Smithville, Texas, which is a little private mountain bike ranch outside of Austin, about forty-five minutes outside. 4:05 But, um, me personally, I know a lot of people would never ride that unless Single Speed USA went there. Um, the second piece is you're gonna set up, um, basically a party. 4:16 You're gonna see these guys-- Some of these people you only see once a year. Um, but like-minded, they're all crazy single speeders, so you kind of get the idea of, of what this party's gonna be like. 4:27 Because of that, it's gonna be rowdy. Um, one thing that, um, Chewy will tell you is, like, we're gonna do it once, and we're never gonna come back, so you can get as crazy as you want. 4:37 And we apologize in advance, but it's gonna be a great time. Uh, we're gonna spend a lot of money. We're gonna do some cool stuff. Um, and then we're gonna host somewhere else next year. 4:46 We tried to figure out-- It's been-- I've been to Pennsylvania, uh, New York last year, like I said, uh, Washington in, um, Bellingham, Washington. Was it Bellingham? Bellevue? Something like that. 4:59 Uh, that was a tough one because that entire race was in the mountains. Um, so yeah. I talked to Ron Chewy Moffitt. I should just say Chewy. [laughs] I shouldn't identify his full name. 5:11 Um, but he's been around for a long time, and he's, uh, been a single speeder for a long time. 5:16 Um, for a lot of years, he personally donated a Surly one by one frame, um, and the rules were kind of his own as to who he donated that to. Um, you know, but he-- we go down... 5:28 [clears throat] And, uh, Carrie Crable or Carrie Montgomery, I think it's Crable now, um, and sh-she'll talk about that, where her-- what her last name is, where it came from. But, um, 5:40 w- she lives in Austin, and she's been trying to get Single Speed USA in Austin for ten years. And, uh, last year, Scandinavian Jesus and I from Drunk Cyclist, um, entered the hosting competition, and the finals 5:56 came down to a bowling match against Maine. And I want to say it was Vermont was the other team. Um, but it was bumper bowling, where you had to hit a bumper every time. 6:07 Um, and the finals of the hosting, I mean, there's games that lead up to it as well. So, um-Yeah, I think that's it. I think we'll get into it, and, um, Carrie, uh, was the former women's champion. She had the belt. 6:22 There's a place on her mantle. She'll go into a little bit of that and what the belt means. Um, granted, it's a, it's a prize that doesn't re- really mean anything, and it's [laughs] 6:31 not that, not that hard to win, but you have to be at the right place at the right time and do the right thing exactly when it matters to, in order to get that belt for a year. You get to take this WWE belt. 6:39 I'll put some pictures in the, in the show notes so f- you can see what they look like. And with that, we'll start the show. 6:45 [upbeat music] I was born ready. Are you born ready to do this? [laughs] Yes, I was. 7:03 [laughs] Born ready to do what? All of it. All right. So we're here with Carrie. How do you say your last name? I always thought it was Ananthony. [laughs] Pretty much. Krabill? Yeah. Krabill. Yeah. 7:17 And Ron Chewy Moffett. Maybe we shouldn't identify your full name. Yeah, yeah. Can you, can we edit that part and just say Chewy? We'll, we'll cut that. We'll just beep. Chewy. Beep. [laughs] I have a real life. 7:27 Not really. And we're reporting live- No, you don't. [laughs] We're reporting live from Austin, Texas. Are we in Austin officially? Fuck right. All right. For- Is it okay to curse? Oh, fuck yeah. Oh, fuck yeah. 7:40 Watch your goddamn mouth. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. [laughs] So- My bad... actually, no, I have think, I think people have said, "I like it, but I can't have it out in the shop with kids around," something like that, so. 7:50 Yeah. Eh, you, you can say whatever you want. Okay. I think we're gonna go into a lot of topics here that- [laughs]... are not necessarily child safe. 7:57 [laughs] You will not be able to tell your kids, "Listen to Mommy on the radio." That's fine. Yeah. My dogs hate it. Your dogs? Yeah. Yeah. Your dogs are dicks. Hank doesn't like us swearing. Not my dog. 8:07 My dogs are dicks? Yeah. My do- so let's start this out. So right now, Sue is watching Spinner's dogs, and when Spinner gets them back, he's in so much trouble because Viv sleeps wherever she wants. 8:22 Hol- She doesn't now... Holly sleeps in bed with Sue. Mm-hmm. Uh, they bo- they all have new bandanas on, and they're all pink. That's the weird part. She's dressing them up in clothes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 8:32 So your dogs are now wearing clothes, and, and they're all happy, and then she just took all... 8:37 Well, she to- she took the girls for a walk, so the o- the only male in our group was Hank, and he's like, "Fuck this," and he went back in the house. 8:44 "I'm not going with the gi- " So, the girls went for a walk tonight, so that was awesome. So my two girls, Holly and Vivian, both, uh, Mountain Cur mix dogs, and then Millie is a puppy- Puberty Corgi, yeah... 8:54 a Corgi puppy. Yep. Okay. And then backtrack a little bit. Hank was supposed to be my dog 'cause I wanted a mountain bike dog. Chewy got me a dog. 9:02 He's a dog guy along with the hockey guy and the mountain bike guy, and I don't know, whatever the hell else you do up there. 9:09 [laughs] And then you decided you couldn't give me Hank, so you got Vivian, a Mountain Cur Corgi mix, whatever. Yeah. And, um, she turns out to be the best mountain bike dog ever. 9:19 Way better than Hank was, but Hank was... So are we telling that story now? Oh, let's not tell that story now. Okay. Let's talk about SingleSpeed USA. There we go. That's important. Yeah. It is. 9:28 It's so important, and as if we didn't just talk about this for- Like, three days straight. [laughs] Well, and with- [laughs]... the Ass Guys. 9:35 We just met the, the Ass Men, the, uh [laughs] which is the Austin Single- I think they would like to be called that... Austin SingleSpeeders. Um, seemed like a pretty solid group. They, uh- Very fun guys... 9:47 way more professional than us, but they just came from work. I think, no, I think we actually brought them down to our level finally. [laughs] You tried really hard. I worked my ass off at that, but it was worth it. 9:57 Yeah. Um, so we're setting up for SingleSpeed USA Austin, Texas in November. Um, it's gonna be in Smithville, Texas, which is 45 minutes, hour. What direction is that? West? East. Never eat Shredded Wheat. East. 10:14 Never eat cheddar? What'd you say? [laughs] Never- She, she just pointed in a star and said what? Never eat Shredded Wheat. Is it north? North, east, south, west. [laughs] And now you know where it's at? East. 10:29 [laughs] You're still guessing. It's fully east from here. Okay. And, uh, we're renting a private mountain bike ranch. Is that what it is, a mountain bike ranch? Is that the official term? 10:43 Mm, it's a private ranch that has mountain biking. Okay. And campground. Yeah, lots of camping, lots of s- super sweet trails, and not a lot of rules. The, the trails- Which works out pretty well. 10:58 [laughs] That's good for us. The trail systems out there, according to Carrie, are, "Let's ride this trail," or, "Let's ride this one. It's really fun." Super fun. So there's nothing el- yeah, they're super fun. 11:05 There you go. It- there's either super fun or let's just ride this trail. Mm-hmm. There's nothing in between. No. The trails weren't-- I was expecting more, like, desert, like Arizona type riding. 11:15 Um, I don't know why exactly, but, um, it's very similar to a lot of stuff we've ridden just without the huge climbs. There's a lot of pine trees in Bastrop. They're known for pine trees, which is weird in this location. 11:27 Bastrop is the town in between Austin and- Right before Smithville... Smithville. Yeah. So you get out there, and it's super pine trees, super sandy, super rooty, and lots of baby heads. It's super fun. Super fun. 11:42 [laughs] Super fun. Super fun. You need to ride this. Yeah. No, um, we rode probably half the course today, half the course yesterday, maybe a little more than that. 11:52 Yeah, because you were leading the way, and God knows where we went. Yeah, I don't know. We should have a mapping app that is not a race-centric map app. [laughs] We can mention names. Mm. 12:02 There, there should be, there should seriously be a- No comment... a spinner app that just, like, because all we do is fucking spin around in circles. [laughs] Let me see if we can build that. 12:12 That might be something we can work on. So anything you wanna say about the event or why it's even, why you're putting up with this? 12:19 [laughs]Jesus Christ How many, how many years were you trying to bring Single Speed to Texas? So it was 10 long years of trying to bring this race here. Every year my team sucked. We couldn't make it. 12:34 So last year, I don't come to Single Speed because I had to go to fucking China, and these assholes [laughs] were like, "Guess what? We won, and we're bringing it to Texas" Yeah. So give some listeners some background. 12:47 The way this works is that Single Speed is three different competitions, and the race is the least important of all three [laughs] Oh, for sure. 12:56 [laughs] So you can be the fastest person at the race, there's a fastest men, fastest women, but you really don't win shit. [smacks lips] The second is the derby. Well, it's usually a derby. 13:06 Last year it wasn't a derby, it was like a weird DJ set up that, uh, cyclocross- Oh... where you had to jump in the pool. What? Yeah. Yeah, it was a cyclocross that went- It wasn't a derby? No, he got, he got creative. 13:18 It was, it was kinda, it was kinda cool actually. It was- Yeah... a series of, of cyclocross races on little kid bikes. So it was kinda cool. Yeah. 13:25 And then he had, he gave people pool noodles, so you, you could get whipped with pool noodles and, and then you had to jump into like a kiddie pool full of s- uh, ducks, rubber ducks. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right. 13:36 And, um, the guy from Pennsylvania, Jade Drasher, won that one. Who won for the women's? Who has the belt for the women's, Carrie? [laughs] We're not gonna fucking talk about that, okay? [laughs] Not up for discussion. 13:50 Carrie is a former... And so the belt is usually a derby. Um, last year it was, you know, like we said, a different event. But, uh, Carrie has won the belt and lost a belt, and she's very... 14:03 I don't even know what you say. Passionate about winning the belt back? [laughs] Passionate. I mean, there's, you, you've- There are two girls- Ah... there are two girls that seriously go after the belt for the belt. 14:15 Yeah. I think Carrie's one, and then there's a young lady out of- That's not true. She doesn't go after the belt. Oh, Carrie, you- Don't joke. [laughs] It's- Maybe we should table this? Yeah, yeah. 14:27 Let's go, let's go onto a different subject. Let's talk about the- Let's talk about something different... let's talk about the competition that matters here. Okay. Yes. 14:31 So the competition that matters is the hosting tournament, which is after everything else. Um, whatever state you're from, or you choose a state to represent, and it's a series of games. 14:42 And I'm trying to think of what we did last year. Bowling. Uh, bowling was the championship. Yeah. Yeah. It came, that was the last one. That was how y'all won. Yeah. Um, what was before that? 14:49 It was- It's, it was a bike toss, and you threw a bike at a plate. Oh, yeah. That's right. And a paper plate, and then you didn't know what points you got. Yep. And I don't even know how that worked out. 14:58 That sounds like DJ Birch. Yeah, DJ Birch. 15:00 Well, you know, the, the, the whole idea behind that is to make sure that it's something different and not something that you can actually, I don't wanna say practice, but not something you're prepared for. 15:08 You bring it in and it's something stupid and silly, and, and- Yeah... and it takes a little bit of talent, which is why Carrie's never won it. We haven't won it before. [laughs] Oh my God. [laughs] God. 15:21 Yeah, and, and one of the things, again, one of the things that always happens in the, the event travels around the country, and whatever state wins- Mm... hosts it. 15:28 And the problems that we've had in the past, like when it was in the Midwest, when it came to Minnesota, most of the participants were from surrounding states. 15:35 So Michigan won in Minnesota, and then the same thing happened at Michigan the next year in the hosting competition. 15:40 Wisconsin was like the closest, one of the closest states, and people started to get annoyed that it wasn't in- Well, the first one, the first one would've been in Minnesota, in Winona, and then we did Wisconsin, and then we did Copper Harbor, right? 15:51 No, other way around. Uh, Copper, Michigan won it in Minnesota, and then Wisconsin won it in Michigan. Oh, right. That's right, yeah. Yeah. And that's when we had the Single Speed USA Midwest Going Away Party. Yes. 16:01 We won it there. And that's when Texas came-- Oh, you were so close. Texas in the finals- I got fucked... against Pennsylvania. No, listen. 16:07 [laughs] I just wanna say for the record, I would've won that shit had it not been for DJ, because we were ahead, right? Was that, wait, was that the roller derby? That was the roller derby. Yeah. I got... 16:19 No, you didn't get fucked. I got fucked over. No, we were fully ahead. I was totally winning the roller derby, and, and then I got taken out by Doug. 16:27 And actually, I won the roller derby 'cause nobody else knows how to roller derby like I do. And- Oh, that Dave Navarro motherfucker... that Dave Navarro dude beat you out, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, fuck that guy. 16:34 He hip checked me into the fucking side of the wall. No, because Doug, because Doug and five of his fucking cronies tackled me. [laughs] No, Doug had that- No, but we were winning. Oh, yeah. 16:41 We were fully winning, and then DJ's like, "Let's do another round" Gomez was the referee. Bringing up a Gomez. [laughs] I scared, I, you know, Gomez is gonna re- gonna edit this, but I scared the shit out of Gomez. 16:54 'Cause- He doesn't edit. Go for it. Does he? So- [laughs] So I, Gomez is like, he's the referee, and he like... I, I love Gomez to death because he studied up on roller derby. Yeah, that's the thing. 17:05 Everybody's like- And-... "That's not how it works." He's like, "It is exactly how it works. I looked it up" Yeah, yeah. "And did you look it up?" I'm like, "No" [laughs] No. 17:11 And then, and then, and then so I pulled the roller derby thing, like when I got fucked over, I like blew up in his face, and he, I scared him to death. He thought it was serious. [laughs] I was serious. I wasn't. 17:20 [laughs] I was very serious. I don't give a shit where it goes next. That's the problem. Single Speed USA, you do not take it seriously. Yes. After nine years- [laughs]... you take that [laughs] shit seriously, okay? 17:33 Oh. That's all I'm saying- Okay... is that we should've won. Well, yeah, we, uh, yeah, yeah. 17:37 And then that guy hip checked me, which is- I thought, I thought just the fact- And, and hey, can I just say if Dave Navarro comes to Austin, I'm gonna fuck him up. [laughs] I don't know where he's from. 17:47 I, I thought we should've won- I'm just saying... I thought we should've won- We both did... hey, I thought we should've won just the fact that we had Julie in a fucking bikini. Nobody else had a girl in a bikini. 17:53 That's true. That was a nice touch. Right? Yes. And she looked really good in her bikini. Yeah. 17:57 So yeah, as you can tell, the, the hosting tournament can be whatever the hosting, uh, team or the hosting state wants to do. 18:05 Um, we have some interesting o- Do we talk about the options we're gonna do, or do we not talk about that? I think we keep that under our belts. Yeah. Okay. 'Cause, 'cause we haven't, we haven't... 18:12 I mean, there's gonna be three. We haven't said anything for sure. Um- We don't want people to know 'cause they can practice Right. Nobody can practice that. [laughs] No. [laughs] There's no practice. 18:22 The, the things that we're talking about- Um- Touché... if you, if you can practice that, you're already good at it. Let's put it the w- this way. The host, the host barUh, 18:31 added a little dab to it tonight that, like, is gonna change the whole thing. Yes. Okay. We'll, we'll- He's talking about goats. Yeah, it has to do with goats. Yeah, it has to do with goats. Okay. 18:43 Um- The secret to- And a, and a lasso Did I- It's a secret... did I say lasso out loud? Yes, you did. Stop talking. Oh, shit. I said it wrong. [laughs] How many times did you hear that tonight? 18:54 [laughs] So, uh, Smithville is a, is a small Texas town. It's not the big... It wasn't quite what I was expecting either. I didn't know, like, big monster trucks, a lot of cowboy hats and stuff like that. 19:04 No, it was, um- It's the home of Hope Floats, so- The home of Hope Floats, yes. Yes. The Sandra Bullock movie. Do you have that? Yes. No. Okay. 19:12 Um, we were walking out of the barbecue place today, and there's a big poster of Hope Floats from, like, when is that movie? '93? Yeah. Oh, shut up. It's, like, the early '90s, for sure. Yeah. 19:20 You were out there, "Oh, my God, this is from here. I love this movie." I heard you. [laughs] That's what I said. [laughs] It was sick. That's what I said. It's Benner's favorite movie. Yeah, yeah. Let's just be honest. 19:27 I'm gonna download it for the flight home and tell everybody I was there. Yeah, [laughs] that's what we're gonna do. Um, what were we... How did we... We started talking about hosting and how it came to you. 19:40 Um, and since you weren't there, um, our buddy Scandinavian Jesus from Dunk Cyclist was like, "Hey, we should try to bring this to Texas." I said, "Okay." 19:50 And I don't know how everything exactly worked out- Neither do I... but it came down to Maine and Vermont. But I thought Vermont had already hosted. Yeah. They had, but it has to go- Yeah... someplace else. 20:02 So it couldn't go to Vermont. Well, remember- They could've gone, like, Connecticut or whatever? Yeah. Okay. Right. I think, yeah, they, they... Yeah. Uh, Vermont and Connecticut are two different states. Right. 20:10 That's what I'm saying. Okay. But, but they're... N- neither one of them are the... They're probably smaller than Austin. [laughs] Oh, all of them are. They're all tiny out there. Yeah, they're super tiny states. Yeah. 20:20 This state sucks, man. Yeah. It's giant. Well, the championship came down to- Oh, here we go. Texas is bigger than everybody else, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We know. It d- everything's bigger here. 20:29 Everything's bigger. Although the cockroaches are bigger. Including disappointment according to, uh, Cyclocross [laughs] 2017, was it? [laughs] We, we should talk about that in a little bit. There was a lot of... 20:40 whining and- But, uh, um, well, let's finish this up. Okay. So the... it was bowling. Um, the championship came down to bowling, bumper bowling between Texas, Vermont, and Maine. There was bumpers? 20:51 There was bumpers that you had to hit a bumper every time. What? You had to- Yeah... you had to hit a bumper or your, your strike didn't count, or your, what, your pins didn't count. 20:58 That sounds like a lot of, like, keeping track of shit. Well, DJ was doing it, and he did it right. 21:03 Well, that was part of the thing with the bowling is it automatically counted your score, so he could just be drunk in the back and- Not- He came up and, like, he, like, did some stuff on some paper, and I looked and he wasn't even writing anything down. 21:13 [laughs] He goes, "All right, Texas wins." [laughs] Perfect. Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah. And then you got the call. I think you were- And then I got the call. Were you excited or were you like, "You assholes"? 21:24 No, I was very excited because I've been trying for so long, and I was like, "Son of a bitch, why am I not there when this is happening?" That's what everybody should've asked themselves. 21:35 'Cause she sucks at extracurricular activities. Yeah? Um, I'm pretty good at those. The women's belt- [laughs] Well- The women's belt went to a good home... those. [laughs] Oh. I was gonna say that. 21:45 The women's belt went to a good home. Um- Um, also doubtful. Oh, she takes good care of it. But it does... 21:53 When you win the belt and you don't have it, like, I've won it twice, and I have a spot on my fireplace, on my mantle, and it stays open. Oh, yeah. [laughs] I do not put anything else up there. [laughs] There... 22:04 I, and I, I will vouch for that. That sucker came down there. Shit up there, that, that spot is empty right now. Mm-hmm. Nothing's gonna replace it. And guess what? He doesn't get to do it this year. 22:13 Well, fuck yeah, he does. I'm gonna fuck that... Sorry. [laughs] You. I'm gonna un- [laughs] Stop. There is- Never mind. [laughs] I apologize. No, you can, you can compete this year. 22:24 I'll tell you- You can compete if you don't race. We seriously just, we- I can compete... we s- yeah, you don't- This is my race. [laughs] This is my state. We seriously just need to sell tickets just to the derby. 22:33 Yeah, the women's derby. We could pay for this, we could pay for this race just off the women's derby, I think. Yeah. Well, okay. So, [laughs] um, back to the race. Let's go to the course and talk a little bit. 22:45 The ranch has a bar there. Used to be an open bar, right? Like, a walking bar. Yeah, they used to have a bar and, like, hamburgers and booze, and now it's just kind of like an empty place. Very rustic. 22:58 A super cool giant shed, lots of timber, probably some scary spiders, which we saw on the course today. Yep. You could feel a lot of spiderwebs across your face as you're riding out there. 23:13 Oh, we st- we stopped at one of the aid stations, and there was one of those spiders in there. I'm pretty sure- Oh, a banana spider... yeah, yeah. It was, like, three inches tall. Yeah, three. 23:20 I was gonna like six or eight. They were huge. [laughs] That's their legs, right? And that's not their bodies. That was- Leg to leg body- Yeah, leg to leg is, like, six and a half inches, I'm pretty sure... 23:27 it was so big. It was terrifying. Yeah. I made Chewy ride... In front to knock all the spiders- Yeah... out of the way? Oh, yeah. I was like, "Hey, let's go down this trail." And then I was like, "Fuck that." Yeah. 23:39 And the trees... Yeah. This is, this is typically the time of year when Single Speed USA would be held. Yeah. The first couple weekends in August, but we're doing it in November because it's- Hot as shit... 23:49 damn hot down here. Yeah. So hot. We haven't done, we haven't done one in November in... Was the f- well, pri- maybe prior to us doing it, when it was in... 24:01 before it became a thing, maybe it was in- What was the first one? Well- Where was the first one at? Was it Downeyville? No, the f- the first, the first Single Speed USA wasn't, like, part of this group. 24:11 I mean, if, if you go, the very first one was, the guys that were- Oh, geez. Four scores- Yeah... seven years ago. [laughs] Yeah. The guys that were trying to make- Trying to make the Single Speed race... 24:19 the guys that were trying to make money off of racing, like- They just called it racing 'cause they didn't have gears when Chewy grew up. [laughs] Yeah. 24:24 The guys that were trying to make money off of racing tried to do one, and it was, it was in, ah, Alabama.I think. And DJ went down there and, and it failed miserably. 24:35 And then so the next year DJ did it in Arizona "This sucks, give it to me," [laughs] is that what he said? Yeah. No, kind of. 24:40 No, DJ just said, "You guys don't know what you're fucking doing, I think," and took it over there. 24:44 And so DJ's always run the Arizona Singlespeed Championship, which is a kick-ass race, and then he just said, "This is the USA Singlespeed one." If you like riding up a road- Mm... for 13 miles at 11% grade- 24:57 That's what the first one was? No. No, that's what they all are. That's s- Oh... yeah. I mean-... Singlespeeder, yeah... DJ's races are, DJ's races are hard. 25:04 I mean, when you do Mel Rose and all that, like, I can't tell you how many times we've struggled coming back through... 25:09 Well, there's, there's, there's several reasons why it's tough coming back because- Mostly 'cause of booze. 25:14 Well, booze and, and, and cookies with stuff in them that makes the ride through Mel Rosa Canyon much better, but also really freaking hard to do. You had cookies with stuff in them? Yeah. Oh. 25:25 Doc was handing out cookies. You didn't get any of the cookies? No. Awesome, man. Yeah. Dude, I did. Understood. It was like, it was like how much do you partake and then he adjusted how much cookie you got from there. 25:35 It was awesome. Oh, really? [laughs] Oh, yeah. I- He got it into the... [laughs] And of course I was like, "Oh dude, you get, like, this little nibble." [laughs] Ah. You don't want a Jewel situation where- No... 25:43 she was- Where yeah, you're wandering in the desert alone. Yeah. Lost. Mm-hmm. Um, and she says that- So anyway, that was... So- Oh, was, was this, um, like sponsored by Niner DJ? 25:53 So DJ Birch who was- He- He won the Singlespeed Worlds, right? And he wasn't in charge of it at the time. Like, he was just super fast. Did he win Worlds? Um, I don't know. I... Oh, I just hit some shit. But- [laughs] 26:03 You're a, you're an amateur drinker. You have a freaking straw. I know, but I can- How are you failing on that?... I can't breathe and then it's all... [snorts] Okay, continue. 26:10 Don't pull, don't, don't pull a stun on this bike. DJ and I won Singlespeed USA the same year. 'Cause you had the belt when you... You brought the belt to Winona and DJ- Yeah... yeah, that's- DJ and I won the same year. 26:21 Where was it? Uh- Vermont? No, Vermont. I DNF'd. You DNF'd, but you won the belt? I... Yes. [laughs] Congratulations. I DNF'd the race. Wait, well, do the... How? And then- Oh. Oh, are you gonna- What are you doing? 26:33 Are you clapping? [applause] I was trying to do the clap. Ah. I'm still working on the board here. There we go. It's okay. He's new. Yeah. I'm new. I DNF'd the race and then I won the derby, and I got the belt. 26:46 And you've been doing it ever since. You've been shooting for that belt ever since, but that was like 2013. Uh, yeah. Uh- 2012? Let's see. No. My... 26:54 I can think about this 'cause my husband and I had just broke up, and then we got together in that trip. Remember when we were over- Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. So that was- This husband? No. 27:05 This- Yeah, this husband. Yeah... yeah, this husband. He wasn't a husband at the time. He was just- He wasn't my husband at the time... he was just a, he was just a boy toy at that time. Oh. 27:10 We were actually broken up at the time. And you weren't ter- horribly broken up about it. Well... [laughs] Sorry. He was more broken up- No, I'm sorry... 27:19 when I was making out with other guys on the dance floor because you were giving out a bike for the best dancing. Oh. Yeah, that's right. Who won it? Nicky, my best friend. Nick- yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. 27:32 My best friend won the bike. And who's, who, who's rode a bike, like, twice since then. [laughs] Right? Not even twice. In- This was, this was back when Sue and I... 27:40 This was so, like, s- still falling along in line when Singlespeed was just getting started, and the guys in, in Boulder, um, Kramer and Jake and, and those guys were like- Fucking Jake... 27:53 we didn't know if they had enough prizes, so we literally... Sue, Sue goes, "Uh, let's buy a frame and give it away 'cause those guys don't have shit to give away." And we gave... So we gave away a frame. 28:04 And every time it would wind up going, the frame would wind up going to somebody who either, like, was watching or- Who really deserved it... yeah. 28:13 So yeah, somebody that deserved it rather than somebody that was actually racing. Somebody that racing didn't stand a chance in hell of winning that frame. Oh, okay. 28:19 We gave it to somebody else, like, in, in Durango we gave... Or, uh, in Boulder we gave it to a girl that was riding, watching. Her boyfriend says, "Well, you can't do this. You don't have a singlespeed." 28:30 So she wanted to ride along, so she rode the whole course on a geared bike, but never shifted. And I rode with her and I'm like, "Oh, fuck it, you get the frame." And she won- Did you duct tape her gears? We did, yeah. 28:39 Yeah, you have to duct tape them. Just to make sure... We did, we did cheat. We just made sure she didn't cheat, but she, she wasn't gonna shift anyway. She was like, "I can do this, and he doesn't think I can." 28:47 And so she... And she did. [laughs] So you chased her and watched her the whole time? Oh, yeah. [laughs] That's not creepy at all. 'Cause you know me, I don't, my- Like, I don't... 28:51 Listen, I'm not gonna trust you on this. [laughs] So I'm gonna watch you the whole, like, six hours- Yeah, my job-... 'cause that race sucks so bad... is watching a 22-year-old girl ride a bike all day long. 29:04 Geez, that's horrible. I know. Oh, God. Worst job ever. Yeah. Mm-hmm. My job sucks. Mm-hmm. So, [sighs] so let's go to... Let's go back to the course. Okay. Well, we talked about... 29:15 Yeah, I don't know if there's more to talk about the c- well, we can talk- I mean, you know- No... do you want me to talk about it? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, you know what? Explain- So-... 29:20 'cause people around the world, like, seriously, like, four listeners in Wisconsin for this show. So... [laughs] They might wanna know about this. You go leftish- They, they, they- They might wanna know about this... 29:28 they will want to come down. And then you turn left, and then you, like, do a bunch of shit, and then you go like, "Boop, boop, boop, that sucks," and then 29:36 around the campsite, and then up and to the right, and then you go, and then big suck, and then it's, like, super fun. [laughs] See, super fun riding. Super fun. Yeah, super fun. 29:46 Staples of a Singlespeed racer, always there's gonna be beer stops. Yes. And we're still working on the beer, but it sounds like there's three different stops. Yeah. 29:55 Vince from Chumma Bikes is gonna run one of the stops- Yes... and we'll have a stop. Ass is gonna run one. Ass is gonna run one, which is- Austin Singlespeeders. 30:02 [laughs] Austin Singlespeeders, and I think they're gonna have a Elvis impersonator and- Yes... and Gong will- Full on Elvis. Like- Wait, I'm not getting this. So the Elvis impersonator plays drum? 30:11 That's not fucking Elvis. No, no, no. Separate. Oh, they're separate. No, Mike's gonna play drums. Oh. Yeah. And who knows what else is gonna happen out there. [laughs] I mean, obviously- Well, they-... 30:20 we need one more stop, but we'll figure that out when we get there. Well, there... We, we also have a, we also have a, a, a vodka distributor in Austin that's donating boatloads of booze. 30:30 Which we are having a-We're gonna further discuss- All right... where the vodka stop is. [laughs] A lot of debate. Where vodka- I have great ideas- [laughs] I have great ideas for the, for the vodka stop- No... 30:41 and nobody's going with my idea, so. It shouldn't be a straight vodka shot. I think it should be a mix. No. No, I think it should be mixed with pickle juice. Oh, that's- Uh-... first off, disgusting. 30:50 It is, but you should do that because it's, like, healthy and well, well for you. What's the shot that Pat set, um, that really dive bar by Pat's house? Palo Verde. No, that's a- The Palo Verde... that's a pickle shot. 31:00 It's a pickle shot. Yeah, it's a pickle shot. It's a pickle shot. Yeah. But no, was it tequila, pickle juice- Oh, it's tequila, yeah... and, uh- Yeah... sriracha? Oh, so it's- No, there's no sriracha. Oh, yeah, no. 31:08 That's just shattered dreams. No, no. No, the one gal [laughs] the one gal that did it one time did it like, like she literally cored out a pickle and then- She what? 31:16 She cored out a pickle and took all that stuff and mixed it together. Oh, cored out. Cored out. Okay. And then, and then actually, the shot was actually in the pickle. That, that- [laughs] I thought that... Okay. 31:26 Fucking news. [laughs] Right. It sounded like something else. Um- [laughs] Okay. Uh- She cored out a pickle. [laughs] She cored out a pickle. She took the m- Cored. C-O-R-E-D. Yep. Out a pickle. No, C-O-R-E-D. 31:40 And then put- I don't think there's... [laughs] You don't know how to spell. [laughs] Yeah, I do. Mm. That is th- a spelling of a word. That's this cord. Anyways. Anyways, so you- Well, it-... cored out a pickle... 31:56 honest to God, you guys. Okay. So we- So we might do a pickle shot, but pickle juice is a, is a racing thing anyway. There'll be pickle, we'll have pickle juice out there. Yeah. Or orange juice if you're a wimp. 32:03 So we'll have something out there. Mm-hmm. We're not gonna do that, y'all. Yeah, we are. No. Don't y'all me. It'll, it, it'll be available. It's not required. I'm y'all-ing on y'all's. Yeah. 32:11 I'm y'all-ing the, like- I haven't heard a lot of y'all's down here. What? Yeah. Oh, seriously, last night that's all we heard was y'all's. From the one guy. So you had way too many NA's last night. 32:21 I had way too many NA beers. So many NA's. Actually, three is, like, a lot [laughs]. Yeah. True. No, but the bar is, uh- We, we spent last night in the, uh, in the, in the after party bar. Hubul's? Huh? Hubul's. Yeah. 32:36 Hubul's is the bar which is gonna host a race. Actually, when we walked in there yesterday, there was a guy sitting at the slot machines and we're just kinda like looking around. He says, "You need something? 32:44 You need anything? You looking for something special?" [laughs] And then we started talking to him and he's like, "Well, I run the place and I run the events," and, um, you know, you never know. 32:52 I had no idea when we walk in there like, what, in a Texas bar in the movies everybody's got a cowboy hat on, everybody's got a gun on their hip. [laughs] You know, we didn't know. 32:59 There was no horses tied upside- tied up outside. And, um, yeah, and then Bonnie, the bartender, comes over and started talking to us. You started giving her shit. 33:08 I, I don't know if you gave her shit first or- She started it. Yeah, okay, she started it. I wanna make sure she hears this, and she fucking started it. [laughs] There you go. 33:16 But anyways- But also today, we showed up, like, 20 minutes before the bar opened, and- Oh, she said. She saw me, she's like, "You can't come in." These guys are, like, we're just coming in. "We're, we're not open yet." 33:24 And she's like, "Oh, it's you guys. Come on in." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're like, "Oh, well," we're good. 33:29 But, but, but at the same time, so the first time we stopped in there to tell them that this is where the race is gonna be run and we're gonna do the after party in this bar because it is, it is the perfect dive bar for tomorrow. 33:39 It's such a shit show. Yeah. It's perfect. And, uh, and so the gal that was bartending at the time calls up the owner, Chris, and goes, um, "These guys wanna run a race here." And he goes, "When is it?" 33:49 We go, "November 2nd." He's like, "That's too far away. Tell them sure, go ahead, and we'll work about it later." So 33:55 when we went in there this time, when you, when Spinner and I went there, Bonnie's like, "I don't know anything about this, and I'm the one that runs all that shit." So she goes, "Tell me more about it." 34:04 So we became immediate friends, of course. Mm-hmm. Because she's as sh- low, mouse as I am. She started giving me shit right away, so it was awesome. So it was good. 34:15 And, uh, they, and s- yeah, so they, they brought up, and then today it was like we're sitting there talking about the af- the, uh, the, uh- [laughs] What do you call them? The, the- Get him another beer. Yeah. 34:28 He's, he's winding down. [laughs] Get this guy a beer, like- Yeah. Obviously he needs one. 34:32 It's that they, they gave, the, the, the, uh, the deciders, and we had an idea, and all of a sudden she spouts out that she knows a guy that has a goat. Oh, you're gonna give away- Nope. 34:44 She knows a guy that has a- My bird, my bird. No, quiet, quiet, quiet... she's got a, she knows a guy that's got a goat. That's all I know. 34:49 Then, then after that, it's like- He's wind- I'm gonna get him a beer 'cause he's winding down. Get him a beer- He's, he's not gonna make it all the way... because he's like, "I'm gonna be passed out in like 10 minutes." 34:57 Oh, me or you? She was falling asleep. You. Yeah, you're, you're running on E. Seriously? You're running out out. Yeah. [laughs] You're on like the- All right, I'm gonna go get... No, I'll get a, no, you sit down. 35:03 You guys talk. I'll get a beer because that makes more sense. [laughs] Okay. That's probably true. Yeah. Do you need anything? I'll take, uh, whatever. I'll take a Miller Lite. 35:12 Is there any chance you can make me a vodka and diet? Okay. Are you sure? We got, we have a half an hour to fill before she... [laughs] Mm. So you have to get ice out of the ice maker. 35:31 [sighs] This is not gonna happen. She's a bartender. There's no way in hell he's coming back with a vodka and diet. You know? No. You might get... Yeah, who knows what you're gonna get. You'll get something. 35:41 You'll get a drink. [laughs] Oh, God. It might not be what you asked for. [laughs] I got, my kids got their second day of school tomorrow. Uh-huh. And we appreciate you taking the day off to set up SingleSpeed USA. 35:52 Well, I mean, kinda have to. What was your first one? Was it Vermont? Uh, so in 2010, I was dating a guy, and we were like, "We should look at this race, it's SingleSpeed European Championship." 36:10 Oh, so you went to Worlds? No. Yeah, s- uh, European Worlds. Okay. And so we're like- That's weird... let's go to this. It's in Belgium. Okay. And so we're like, "Let's go," and then we're like, "Okay." 36:23 And then we broke up, but I was like, "Well, fuck it, I just converted my bike to a single speed." Were you a serious rider at the time? Uh, yeah, we rode quite a bit. Okay. 36:34 But we didn't have, none of us were single speeders. Okay. So-My boyfriend at the time and I decided to go to Belgium. Mm-hmm. Converted my bike to single speed, broke up, 36:48 and I was like, "Well, fuck it, I'm gonna go to this race." You guys bought tickets together? We did. And he didn't go? No. So he actually ended up going. Oh. So we were broken up. He was dating another girl. Oh. 37:03 And he and I went to Belgium together and did Single Speed Europe. That is so weird. [laughs] Ah, I mean, there was a lot of discussion about it. Oh, yeah, if people can do whatever they want these days, continue. 37:15 Ah, you know. I don't know. No judging. [laughs] I was Facebooking, like, "Look what we're doing," just to fuck with his new girlfriend. Oh, man, that's-- You're so cruel. 37:24 Well, she was fucking him while he was with me, so I felt like it was okay. Oh, okay. I get it. So we went to Belgium- Yep... and did Single Speed Europe. Super rad. That's when we met Boozy the Clown. Okay. 37:40 I've never actually met him, but I've heard- You've never met Boozy? I've heard all the stories. Oh, well, you have to meet Boozy. Sounds like I don't have to. Eh- [laughs]... probably, probably for the best. Okay. 37:51 So we went there, and then I came back and I was like, "Well, shit, what's next? Mm, Single Speed USA is in Boulder." It was in Colorado, okay. Yeah. 38:03 So I was like, "Well, I'm gonna go," and I went to Single Speed USA, and that's where I met Chuey. Oh, okay. And w- we- The impression just stuck. [laughs] It did. 38:14 And then I was like, "Well, I should go also to Single Speed Worlds," which was like the trifecta. Uh-huh. But it was, uh, full. Where was it that year? In Ireland. Oh. 38:26 And so I emailed and I was like, "Hey, listen, I've been to Single Speed USA, I've been to Single Speed Europe, I need to come to Single Speed Worlds," and they're like, "Okay." And so- And that was it? 38:39 You just asked and they, like- Yeah, pretty much. Okay. And so I went to Single Speed Worlds by myself. And you met-- Well, Chuey was there. I met-- Uh, Chuey was there, but I went with, um, Toby, who I met, 38:55 oh, where did I-- In Europe. Okay. So that's the guy that I got married to on the side of the trail. Toby? Yeah. That's not? No. Okay. [laughs] So you have such a history that I don't know. 39:09 He's, he's pointing to my husband right now. Yeah, I'm pointing to her husband s- yeah, sorry. So I- We're at, like, like when I said- You know... 39:15 so now k- it's Carrie and Anthony, and I never hear really Carrie without the and Anthony behind it. Right. [phone ringing] So who's that? [phone ringing] Oh, Pat's calling. Oh, shit. Should we answer it? 39:24 Yeah, let's answer. Let's see if we can get it on the- So Pat Mer- or, uh, not Pat, uh- Oh, hold on. Let's see if I can get him on... Scandinavian Jesus from Drunk Cyclist is answering. Hey, Pat. 39:32 [distorted sound] So we have Drunk Cyclist on the phone, who sounds drunk. Nothing you're saying makes sense. Thank you. Why did Carrie answer? [laughs] Why? 39:48 Because I ha- because Chuey was making me a drink. [laughs] Jesus called you, and she's talking to Jesus. What are you- When I, when I text-- When I call Ron, I assume to get Ron, not Carrie. 40:00 Well, that's a really bad assumption. Why does he go rant, rant, rant, rant, rant? [laughs] That's how he talks. He kinda sound like a penguin. We're doing a podcast. 40:10 Sounds like everything's going about as well as I would've expected it to. [laughs] Yeah, pretty much. What are you doing? We're, uh, we're drinking a cooler out in Papago 'cause Short Track's finishing up right now. 40:23 Oh, yes. Papago Short Track, which is the- Tuesday. Okay, we're ignoring you for a minute. Yeah. Well, if you wanna talk... Can you call back? Can you call back? Like, like on Friday? [laughs] No. Okay. 40:36 Oh, I gotta turn Chuey's mic back on. There you go. Hey. Oh, hold on. We're turning Chuey back on. I can put him on somehow, but I haven't figured it out yet. Can you put him on? Um, yeah, I can Bluetooth it. 40:46 Oh, he hung up on me. All right. Okay. We'll fix that later. That's good. Ah, fuck him. Yeah. He'll be on there bef- He'll be on there again. Yeah, he's fine. Yeah, we'll fix it up for you. 40:52 So we were going through the history of Single Speed USA, and it turned into a history of your love life. [laughs] Yes, my love life. [laughs] Oh, am I glad I left that till the end of the conversation. 41:02 [laughs] Well, we were at Single Speed Ireland, so you went to Single Speed- So, yeah, I got-... European Championships. And that's all, that's where we all met her. And, and- No, she met you in Boulder. 41:10 You met me in Boulder. Was that the first time I met you? I thought Ireland was the first time I met you. Ireland, then Boulder, or was it the other way around? Yes, because I invited you to Boulder. Oh, so... 41:22 [laughs] Fuck. Yeah, no shit. This is the typical-- This is how single speeds... Open your beer before you fall asleep. [laughs] Oh, no. Is he falling asleep? No, he's, he's running on E. You gotta keep him going. 41:33 When he gets this late- Look at his hair... if he's not drinking beer, he passes out. His hair- You gotta keep, keep the beer... is amazing right now. Yeah, it is. Always is. Your hair is amazing. Is it? 41:41 I wish that all of these people listening- It's, it's, it's-... the four people listening... it's pre the hockey season- [laughs]... before I have to get, I have to get the hockey haircut coming up here, so. 41:50 What is a hockey haircut? Mm, it's, like, it'll be super short, be a- above my ears and all. Like, seriously- That is not super short, by the way. 41:56 No, no, this now, no, the-- I have not had my hair cut since February, so I try to do it, like- February? 42:03 So the, the whole thing is we go into the hockey season and the, and the playoffs and nobody shaves and nobody does anything. It's kind of a- Yeah... hockey thing. 42:10 And- You got, like, a Doc from, uh, Back to the Future going on right now. [laughs] Well, yeah, 'cause I forgot a comb. [laughs] And he haven't showered in two days. 42:18 We were in a rush to g- we were in a rush to get down here 'cause we like Austin so much, we were in such a hurry to get down here, I forgot half my shit. Austin's pretty cool. It is. 42:25 I, I've been to Austin a bunch now, and the only bad thing about Austin is my kid lives here. Wait, I didn't say that out loud, did I? [laughs] We gotta go to his house after this. I know it. But, um- You do... okay. 42:37 Well, anyways. Yeah. So- Well, I think... [laughs] let's cut to today. Oh, today. So after Boulder- An important day... it was in Vermont. Mm-hmm. Um, and then Vermont, came to MinnesotaYeah And then Michigan. Michigan. 42:52 Copper Harbor. And then Wisconsin. Yeah, and then Wisconsin. Copper Harbor. No, where's Copper Harbor? That's Michigan. Yeah, that's Michigan. That's Copper Harbor. 42:58 So that's after- I talked to a girl from Madison who snowboards, has nothing to do with mountain biking at all, and she snowboards in Copper Harbor, and she calls it, and she's like, "Copper Harbor." 43:08 I'm like, "How do you s- why do you say it like that?" [laughs] Every- everybody calls it that. I think, well, and the d- story is this guy from Pennsylvania has a heavy Boston accent for some reason. 43:18 I don't think he's even from Boston. He just talks like that. Doug, um- Oh, Doug Simpson... Doug Simpson. Yeah. He, he, he's like, "You guys going to Copper Harbor?" 43:26 [laughs] And ever since, I have never heard anybody else call it anything but that, but I didn't know it was outside the bike group, too. I, yeah, I would- She's a snowboarder, she called it Copper Harbor... 43:35 I would've guessed it was just strictly the bike group. The, and especially the single-speeders, because that's where it kinda started. I'm shocked that- Well, you realize it's actually a place. Copper Harbor is. 43:47 Yeah, Copper Harbor is a- [laughs] Somebody calls it Copper Harbor... but Copper Harbor is not a place. Copper Harbor. Yeah. How would you say Austin in Boston? [laughs] Oh my God. Wustin. Wustin. Wustin, Texas. 43:56 Austin, Texas. Yeah. I mean- That's what I'm saying, like- Hey... nobody up there, that's all univers- You should have one of your callers call in, because you have so many. One of each. [laughs] We'll do that. 44:05 [laughs] Yeah. Well, yeah, there's a Bluetooth thing in here. I haven't set it up and I didn't read the instructions. 44:10 And sorry, Gomez, I know you're gonna hear that, [laughs] but we could put Pat on here through the phone. If we can somehow put Pat- I don't wanna talk to Pat... on the phone- Not tonight... it would be brilliant. 44:19 Not tonight. Not tonight. Oh, no. Oh. Pat's a lot of work, when you'd have to talk to him drunk. But he's not drunk. Oh. It's, like, Tuesday at 4:00 PM. Tanner just said, Tanner just said, "Podcasts are gay. 44:28 I'm gonna kick his ass when I get over there." Is he coming? Uh, I don't know what he's doing. Okay. Well, he shouldn't come here. Y'all should just go there. [laughs] Well, we should go back to the race. Yes. 44:38 So- What, wait, there's a race?... if, if anybody is listening to this, if anybody is listening to this interested in what's actually gonna happen at Single Speed USA ATX 2019, um, we should talk about that. 44:51 And first of all, ATX, is that what you have to y- you can't just say TX down here? No. You have to say ATX? It's ATX 'cause Austin, Texas. You have to differentiate from- Yeah, totally... 45:00 Dallas and Houston and West Texas. Yeah, well, first off, Dallas is a shit hole. [laughs] Nobody's coming from Dallas now. Oh, well, fuck 'em. [laughs] They're not, they're not- They don't need to... 45:09 they're not Tech- Texans are they, if they're from Dallas? Mm, eh. I think that would be more Texas than Austin. No. Austin's the weirdos. Austin's the cool kids. Yeah. You're like the Madison of Wisconsin. 45:22 It's, like, very red state, and then, like, a lot of- That's a little blue... liberals in Madison. And I think Austin is probably that, but Texas is way bigger. 45:31 Well, I was gonna say stuff, but then it would be, like, super political, so I'm not. Yeah. Please don't, 'cause I gotta [laughs] deal with the comments on this thing. [laughs] So wait, you get comments? Maybe. No, yeah. 45:44 I got comments on the last one. Like the 13 people that listen to this shit are gonna [laughs]- That, that's five more-... are gonna have a lot of comments... 45:50 that's, that's, like, five more than I thought, because I have to, I invite people that we, we get. Oh, the last one was a pretty good hit. 45:55 And it, and that's the thing with this podcast is it's not an interview back and forth. This is just, like, campfire conversation. That's why it's called The Burning Bike. Uh-huh. 46:02 This is like, so many times when we were sitting at the bar, I'm like, "If we were just, if we had this on the show, we'd probably have to edit some out for, uh- It-... legal protections [laughs] of certain people. 46:11 And, and you have to admit, so we did Santa Rampage at our place. Mm-hmm. And you were there, sort of. Only in mi- mind, not in spirit, whatever. But we did- Did you say you're nut spirit? He's got nut spirits, yeah. 46:24 Um, but- What? I don't know what that means. So we were- [laughs] What the hell's he talking about? 46:28 So we did, we, no, we did, so after Santa Rampage we went down to the current and we did a, we did a podcast with you and I and Pat- S- and Sav... and Sav from Surly. Or, w- w- doesn't- Gator was in there. Yeah... 46:38 yeah, but Surly, and it was probably the funnest podcast, or just reminiscing of stupid shit that's happened in b- in, in, uh, Single Speed mostly, and, you know, and Sav tells the greatest stories ever. 46:53 And then Gomez couldn't get it to come out because we were using a- We had a, we had a bad microphone-... a cheap-... and, like- Yeah... the, we were different distances, so he couldn't, it didn't pick everybody up. 47:03 If I was sitting back or if I moved forward while I was talking, is- if Sav was b- sitting kinda back behind somebody, it just didn't pick everything up. Yeah. 47:10 Um, w- what we talked about was good, but it just wouldn't record. Oh, a- and it was fantastic because it was, like- And Sav, just so everybody knows is [laughs] he used to be the head of sales for Surly, kinda. Ah. 47:21 I think he was, he was with Surly from the beginning, wasn't he? Yeah, and he, and he, and he was, like, their... 47:26 When he moved to Decorah, he was, like, so he could work offline, he was, like, their online, um, question guy or, you know, kinda monitoring to make sure that everything was going copacetic for Surly, that you weren't trying to undercut prices of the other dealers. 47:41 He was, he was that guy. Do you know that thing that QBP has been posting, like, every three days of, "Hey, um, your bike's cool. Well, the, what's the bike is best?" And he's like, "The one you like to ride." 47:52 And that thing that, uh, B Rose got that tattooed on his back. Yep. S- QBP has been posting that. Sav wrote that right- Sav wrote that... years ago. Yeah. The QBP has been posting it, like, every three days for months. 48:03 His, well, his whole thing, the, there, um, uh, it's off subject, but there was a thing about, you know, what's, the questions that q- that Surly would get asked. QBP gets, yeah. 48:13 Yeah, about bicycles, and it was just, like, kinda along that line. What's the best color? I don't know, what color do you like? You know, all that kind of stuff. And that was all Sav, and he's just awesome. Yeah. 48:21 And he, and, and he's the best- No bike is good at everything. [laughs] Uh, M- M- he's the best MC at any race we've ever put on. 48:30 How we're gonna get him down here, I don't know, if we can, because he's, like, he doesn't need anything fancy. He walks around in a cowboy hat and a megaphone. 48:39 And you hear him, and you understand everything he's saying, and he's f- His voice carries... and he's fucking fantastic 'cause he's funnier than shit. 48:47 And he's not in the bike industry anymore, but he still rides a bike.Huh. He is-- No. He's- Uh, no, no, uh, uh- No, he's fucking dead to me... you're not gonna bad talk Za on my show [laughs] Yes, I am. 48:56 No, I am because he's fucking dead to me 'cause he rides an electric bike now. [sighs] What? Uh, well, if you ever see- Za rides an electric bike? Yeah. 49:03 Well, if you ever see the hill he has to climb to get to his house three times a day, you'd ride an electric bike too. Okay. Actually, probably not. He's talking shit about him and then he's, "But it's okay." Yeah. 49:12 No, no, no. That's not okay. I'm, I'm following his line of logic, and when he stopped by my house on the electric bike, he goes, "I know you're gonna give me shit about this," but he goes, "Here's why I ride." 49:20 He goes, "It took me like two months to convince myself that this is what I should have." And now he has one. Yeah. And he loves it. 49:26 He should add that on to his big thing of words, "E-bikes are cool if you live on a hill." [laughs] Mm. [laughs] And it- Oh, come on... I know, and that hill, I'm, I'm, I... 49:37 The, I've rode that hill before he moved into that house, 'cause Deco owned that house before, and I'll guarantee you, I've only rode that house, that hill twice- Okay... to get to his house, maybe. 49:48 Well, let's, let's, let's talk about e-bikes for a minute. Just in general. All right. Okay. So you do not like them, obviously. Not a fan. Okay. Y- give me your, your spiel on e-bikes. 49:58 Well, I just think- Why do you hate them?... like, you should actually pedal for yourself. And- Commuting, racing, obv- well, racing's different, but commuting? No. Well- What about the commuter? 50:10 Why would you commute with an e-bike? Like, fucking pedal. 50:15 [laughs] I mean- I've heard the argument say, what if you, um, live 20 miles from work and you can, you would either have to drive or you could e-bike, where you can pedal some of the time. What do you think? 50:27 How about you just pedal? [laughs] Right? Like, here's the thing, like, "Oh, I live 20 miles away from work. This is so hard. I need an e-bike." No, you need to get in fucking shape. Yeah. 50:44 And- Uh, maybe it's-... pedal. Yeah. Okay. And we have coaches, one of our- Oh, you... And that's another thing. We haven't even talked about your high school coaching. 50:52 Should we not do that after the things you've already said? [laughs] It's fine. You're a NICA coach? I am a NICA coach. Okay. But here's the thing, like, one of our coaches was like, "Oh, this e-bike's so fun. 51:05 Like, I wanna do it occasionally." That's fine. Do it occasionally. Personal use, not a race. No, you do it occasionally, but- Don't let the kids see you on one... 51:13 first off, if you're in a race, you need to fucking pedal. That's true. Because all the rest of us are pedaling. Mm-hmm. And that's bullshit. 51:20 What would you say if there's a category for e-bikes that are separate from everybody else? I would say, "Fuck you." Okay, I would too. [laughs] Because, right? What i- what is this fucking e-bike category on a race day? 51:31 I, I'm putting on a race in, uh- No, I, I, I-... the end of the month and, and people ask me if they can ride e-bikes... well, you and, and then our time trials we get asked too. Yeah. 51:38 And the guy, and the guy- It's there. They're here. And literally- We have to deal with them... the guy that, the guy that asked is a guy that can totally ride everything in Decorah. He's just slower than everybody else. 51:47 Well, here's the thing. If you wanna ride an e-bike, that's fine. Do what you want. I've heard it's very fun. Okay. But don't do it on trails where you can't ride an e-bike. Yeah, don't break the rules. 52:03 Don't break the rules, and don't try to fucking race, 'cause that's not a fair race. I... See, that's what I say now instead of, "Fuck e-bikes," I say those two things. [laughs] Right. Oh, do you? 52:14 Well, that's what matters. Yeah. It's like, listen- Like, if you-... if you wanna ride- No, you can't... an e-bike, fucking go for it. I've heard they're very fun. So you're not, "Fuck e-bikes"? 52:24 No, I'm, "Fuck e-bikes on my trails, where e-bikes aren't allowed, because you shouldn't do that shit." Yeah. And you're not gonna do it in a race. Yeah. Don't ra- well, don't race- Like, my kids try really hard. 52:40 You don't want your kids to be beat by an e-bike kid? No, I'll fucking e-bike kid up, dude. [laughs] So, yeah, I guess that's- And Chewie- That's the thing... 52:50 well, Chewie sees a lot more, 'cause on-- Rochester's got a lot. I'm sure that e-bikes are blowing up there in, uh, Rochester Trail System. But- It's, it's, um- All Madison's public bikes are now e-bikes. What? 53:03 Uh- Well-... B Cycle Trek has, like, a B Cycle program that they test out in their local, um, thing. They used to have, like, you could rent a bike and ride it somewhere, now they're all e-bikes. Oh, really? Yeah. 53:13 No, we still have pedal ones in Rochester. Okay. There's, but there's some e ones too, but it, it's- What's your thoughts? Um, so that- Now that Za rides one. [laughs] No. So, uh, okay, I live in two different places. 53:27 I live in Decorah and I live in Rochester. Rochester, there's no fucking reason whatsoever that you ride an e-bike or on the fucking scooters. There's no reason ever to ride an e-bike. 53:37 But it, well, well, well, but, but just wait. So in Decorah- You can, you can cloud the water with the scooters, so let's keep it on the bikes... okay, so just stay with bikes. So- But also- So in Rochester-... 53:44 you don't need to ride a, an e-bike anywhere. Well, okay, so, and, and, and- 'Cause you're too lazy to pedal? No, no. Well, th- assume not everybody is an athlete. Right. And so- I don't care if you're an athlete or not. 53:57 So, so- Get on a bike and- If you're an 88-year-old person with bad hips- So if, if you're riding, if you're riding- I'm sorry, I'm devil's advocating [laughs] You're not. No. 54:03 If you're 88 and you have bad hips, you're not riding an e-bike either. You don't think so? No. Oh, yes, they do, because that gives them the chance to. And there, here's our problem. 54:10 So, so, and yes, and I, I, I'm against them, and Sue is even more against them. 54:16 And, and literally when we go to Decorah and we ride the trail, we ride the Trout Run Trail, and it's got some climbs to it, and you see that 75, 80-year-old guy trying to make those switchbacks. 54:30 He's n- there, you know there's no way he's ever gonna ride them. He's pedaling his bike. He's going up the hill on the switchbacks, and he's doing it. I have no problem with that guy. At the same time, [laughs] 54:42 there's a gal riding it that's, like, 25, and she's trying to race Sue and I on our tandem. And I'm like, "Fuck you," and Sue's like even more, "Fuck you." [laughs] And then we're like, i- it's like, 54:55 how did she describe it? It was like-That horror movie where that guy's chasing you and you're just trying to stay away from him, and that's what we were doing. 55:02 'Cause she's riding an e-bi- e-bike up those hills, and she pedals, like, three strokes and then coasts. Right. And we're... And, and so there, and so there, so there's a place where I don't agree with it, right? 55:12 But, but a, a Luther professor exactly, for example, uh, is 80 years old, and they always... He, where he lived and tried to get there, Deke built him an e-bike, what, 15 years ago? Mm-hmm. 55:25 And that he was able to start riding bike back to college again because there's giant hills in Luther. So-- or in Decorah and to get to Luther. So it's cool. So that- Just meaning there's a time and a place- It is... 55:39 and maybe a rider- Yeah... that, that it's okay for. But, like, if I hopped on one and we were riding the same course, you'd be pissed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Fully. Sure. 55:48 And I don't wanna be passed by an e-bike on a climb on a mountain bike race or even on a mountain bike ride, you know? So maybe it's like if you wanna live in town and you're an old fucking piece of shit- [laughs]... 56:00 then you ride an e-bike. You just [laughs]... Right? [laughs] You're a horrible person for owning an e-bike. No, I'm just saying, like- I don't care if your hips are old. 56:09 I don't care if you have arthritis, you're horrible. [laughs] You're old. Ride an e-bike, but don't get on my trails. So yeah, don't... Yeah, there's certain trails that it's not allowed. Probably the same ones where 56:23 dirt bikes aren't allowed or ATVs, UTVs. Right. Um, but yeah, there are different e-bikes. Uh, 'cause I was initially like, "Yeah, screw these. They shouldn't be here." 56:35 And it, it sucks to see the industry moving that way, but I can see the benefits for people like that. The other thing that I can see, which, um, I- Oops, sorry... I'm a big fan of local bike shops. Mm-hmm. 56:48 So smaller bike shops. They're having a hard time selling things. 56:50 Well, I shouldn't say having a hard time selling things, but I mean, how much better can the technology get and what are you gonna get more consumers in buying? You know, everything's like pedaling a bike is hard. 57:01 Well, hey, we have an e-bike. This'll get you started. So now they have more things they can sell. I don't know if, like, the batteries are gonna become something that c- they can sell or service. 57:10 Um, you know, you swap out your battery or get your kids riding. Um, so I guess I'm curious to see how that works out. Well, it's gonna have to play out and, and, and- Right... the technology's definitely gotten better. 57:22 Mm-hmm. And, and, and, and, you know, um, you talk to certain shop owners and they say, "Jesus, it's like my bike rental business is fantastic because of your bikes." Mm-hmm. 57:33 You know, and then, and then we ride by 'em on our, on our tandem or on our bikes and it's, like, going... It just pisses you off. But yeah, it gets people out. I don't think it's correct. 57:43 I don't, I don't know wh- I don't... There's- I don't know if it's... It, it- It, it... Let's put it this way. You could s- Here's the biggest problem. You can... 57:50 And they, and even though we don't talk about scooters, but it kind of falls into the same place. So it's a, it's a motorized vehicle. It is a motorized vehicle. And, and, and you're not supposed to be on the trails. 57:59 Who's going to enforce it? You dump that on the police department, who already has more shit to do and not enough people to, to do it with. So now you want them to start doing that petty stuff, it's not gonna happen. 58:09 So, you know, um, the industry in itself- You're saying, you're saying, you're talking about enforcement. Yeah. It's- To say it's not allowed on these trails, but who's gonna enforce that? Right. 58:18 It- Is it gonna happen anywhere? It, it, it comes back to the police department, and they don't have time to deal with that, and they're not going to. I mean, if there's a situation. 58:25 But we were in Milwaukee, uh, a couple weeks ago, and there was a guy and a girl riding the scooters, and she had no business being on the road. 58:34 She was where she was supposed to be, couldn't handle it for shit, and if I wasn't, like, aware of what was going on, I'd have run her right over. Yeah. 58:41 But, uh, but because of the, because of all the talk about this, we've been kind of... I was aware of it, and it's like, "Well, that girl can't ride that thing." Saw it coming? Yeah. 58:49 So we, we backed way the hell off and kept cars away from her just so she could get to the next bar she was going to. That is gonna be the problem. Um, kinda like anything, if you don't have to 59:01 practice a lot, because kind of in the... What am I trying to say? If you don't earn something, you don't have the respect for it, and maybe that's what you're saying. Yes. Kind of the- Sounds really good, yeah... 59:10 route that you're starting to see. Yeah. Yeah. Um, one more case I'm gonna throw out. [laughs] Oh, God. To see if you're okay with this, see if this person's a piece of shit. All right. We'll see. 59:18 Say, like, gran- We'll see... grandpa and grandma wanna ride with their grandchildren. Little, you know, grandchild's fast. Grandpa and grandma wanna ride. Can they ride an e-bike, keep up with the kid? 59:31 What- As long as they're pedaling. What? What? Okay. [laughs] Here's the thing. No. Here's the thing. On a paved trail where they are allowed, not on single track. No. Not talking about that. 59:39 But if you're riding, if you're riding the pace of those kids, three, four miles an hour, I have no problem with it. So along that line, I was riding into work one day. No, I was actually riding to a bar one day. Mm. 59:53 Same thing. Same thing. Uh, uh, and, um- Work, bars. [laughs]... a coup- a couple, there was a couple on, um, I think the Yuba ones. 1:00:01 I'm just kinda guessing 'cause I couldn't tell what they were, but they had their kids on the back, and they come blowing by me on the bike trail, uh, through Bear Creek Park. You know where I'm at. Yeah, yeah. 1:00:08 Popular place, right? So- So your typical three- Yeah... four foot wide, uh, rails-to-trails type of trail, but it's not- Yeah, in, in the city, right. Yeah. 1:00:16 And so they come, they're, they're crossing a bridge and I'm riding along and I'm like, "I'm fine. They'll be by those guys." All of a sudden they come blowing by me. And the dad says... Actually, I'm cheating. 1:00:24 He has one kid on his... No, he has two kid on his, and the mom has a kid on hers. Two e-bikes? Both on e-bikes? Yeah, they're both on e-bikes, like cargo e-bikes. I think they were Yuba's. Okay. They kinda look like it. 1:00:34 I know, well- Either way, it doesn't matter. Yeah. So I'm not slighting the company here, but the, but... 1:00:39 So they rode by me, so I jumped on my ass and started riding with them, and I, for whatever reason, had my odometer on. 17 fucking miles an hour.Oh, wow I, and they were losing me. 1:00:50 So they were going faster than 17- The kids have helmets on, I hope Uh, no. Oh, wow. Mom had a helmet on. Yeah, that's the problem. Nobody else did. 1:00:56 Mom had the kid in the bike- Mom, mom had a helmet on, Dad didn't, and the kids didn't. I'm like, "This is just weird." So they're not cyclists that s- switched to e-bikes. I- They would probably just... 1:01:03 They were not cyclists at all. No, they're like, "How are we gonna get somewhere really fast?" They bought these things. "We're gonna ride an e-bike." 1:01:07 I kinda got the impression that, that Dad might have been a commuter and bought this to get his wife and the kids out doing stuff, you know? But still, fucking 17 miles an hour, I... A- and I'm, I'm... 1:01:19 So I'm pedaling a bike. Granted, I ride a single speed, but I was humping to try to keep up with that 17 miles an hour, and they were losing me. 1:01:25 So they're going faster than 17 miles an hour, which, A, is allowed on bike trails. If you live up in Minneapolis, 10 miles an hour if you're on a trail, where anybody else can go. Yeah. 1:01:34 Otherwise, you know, there's bike trails that are separate, but there, there's a, there's a speed limit. And so these guys are, like, cruising along. 1:01:39 And I'm like s- I'm like, "You could pedal those two little kids at 10 miles an hour, but you're gonna, you're gonna do e-bike at 17? That's bullshit." Right. Well, that gets to another... 1:01:49 Yeah, it's gonna start to be, they're gonna have to regulate more, like you said, even though who's gonna enforce it? But they're probably, you're gonna start seeing speed limits on commuter trails. 1:01:58 It's- Well, we see that here too, right? Like, you can't take your scooter on the hike and bike. Yeah. And you can't go, like, more than X amount of miles per hour on the hike and bike. Yeah. And it might... 1:02:12 But what I'm saying, like, helmet's required. It's gonna be like a seatbelt in a car probably. It should be. 1:02:17 Well, and, and I think a lot of people do that, but I don't wanna get a ticket because all of a sudden there's this new thing that's taking our spot. Oh, don't, no, don't say that. No, I would give you a ticket. No. 1:02:26 Yeah. But the, but the- Well, you know what I mean? I'm just saying that any regulation that they're gonna have to start coming up with because there's a 20 mile an hour bike out there- Right, right... 1:02:34 and, and there's a bunch of people going that fast. Well, technically they have a governor on them so they don't go faster than 17. I bet not all. Uh- I mean, is that, is that a regulation? I, I, I believe so. 1:02:43 I, I mean- Manufacturer regulation? I mean, when I, when I talk to bike shop owners and argue with them about the whole situation, that's what they tell me. "Well..." And the, and they... 1:02:52 And in certain cases they're right. It's like, so all the switchie... If you had an e-bike out here on these trails, they're too tight, too turn-y. You're not, you're not gonna rip up the trail. 1:03:02 You're not gonna wreck anything. You're gonna go faster than a guy that's doing it pedaling, but you're not gonna destroy the trail. No, you're gonna probably destroy the trail. Well, you're not. 1:03:11 The, the, the- No, you're not. Mm. That's the, that's the problem. That's- There's different ones. That is the problem. You're gonna destroy our trails. Well- How? 1:03:17 Here's part of the problem too, is that, you know, some people think a mountain bike is the same as a dirt bike. It's gonna rip up the trails. I know [laughs] I know, I feel like I'm... 1:03:25 I don't know why I'm an e-bike advocate today. But, uh- Well, I know... there's- Seriously, this is really weird. No... 1:03:29 no, but that, there's some that are pedal assist only, so it's not like you crank the throttle and go. It just, it assists you. I- So as you pedal, it- Yeah... it helps. 1:03:37 Oh, and what, and what bugs me is, is the ones that do, like- Like a motorcycle, dirt bike? Yeah. Like, like we're riding- Crazy... 1:03:44 over the overpass on 52 to go to work every day, and it's, it's, it's, you know, the turn into climb. And here, Sue and I are climbing it, and she's older, but she's younger. Like you. [laughs] You're in so much trouble. 1:03:58 I know. I, I, I, I- You're fucked right now... I fucking blew that whole- Like, you are so fucked. All right. She doesn't listen to- Why did you even say it? No, she doesn't. You can't listen. 1:04:04 Well, you're gonna tell her, "Oh, you should listen. We talked about this." Yeah, no. Oh, I'm gonna talk about you. She's gonna hear you get to this part. 1:04:08 There's no way, there's no way that she's listening to Spinner and I talk, so we're fine. Um, but- She's sick of it, yeah... but she's, but she's like, it pisses her off. 1:04:17 She goes, "I'm riding up this and I'm near retirement age, and here comes a guy that's way overweight and he's riding an electric one up the same trail." 1:04:28 It's like, and that pisses her off 'cause it's like, "No, get off my fucking trail. I, I have worked myself in shape." He's not handicapped. He has no disabilities. He's just fucking lazy. Yeah. 1:04:41 And this is where- Where is that? And it, and in Rochester it's gonna get worse because- But maybe he's not lazy. Maybe he does have a handicap and you don't know about it. 1:04:50 There's always that possibility, but there's certain people you look at and go- [laughs]... "No." Right? "Not a chance." That's true. 1:04:54 And the other thing, the only thing I'll say to that, and Sue don't slap me, is that it's nobody's trail. It's not her trail. I, I understand what she's saying, you say- Right, yeah... but, but that is the thing. Yeah. 1:05:04 It's like it is everybody's, and you have to put up with everybody out here. Yeah. It's like Boo- And- Hey, let's, let's example of Boozy the Clown. It's a party, and he can party. Yes. He abuses the party- Oh my God... 1:05:16 on the Single Speed USA. Are we gonna tell Boozy ta- tales now? No, we're not gonna get into Boozy tales. Oh, thank God. That- We can save that for later. Okay. Like, do you think he's coming to Austin? Oh, no. Uh-uh. 1:05:26 He's not coming? He's, like, kinda, like, blown off the face of the earth. I don't know what happened to him. So- We haven't seen him in a while... well, he had babies. If you had to ex- What's that?... 1:05:32 explain, uh- He had babies... Boozy the Clown- Go ahead... in 20 seconds. Who is Boozy the Clown? [sighs] Boozy the Clown loves to get super fucked up at Single Speed events. Because, because- And wear underpants. 1:05:47 In white, tighty whiteys. Tighty whiteys. Yeah. Um, and also, like- He's probably the biggest liability... show up at bars and- The, the only guy, the only-... and not be able to hang... 1:05:58 the only guy I ever threatened to kill in a bar outside of the United States. [laughs] That's probably not a short list. [laughs] Oh, okay. 1:06:10 So if there's anybody who's listening specifically for Single Speed USA and now are roundly educated on e-bikes, what do you want the rest of the Single Speed USA interested parties to know? 1:06:22 I want them to know that we have super fun trails set up in Austin. [laughs] In Smithville. I mean, technically not Austin, but- And, and before the event, so November 2nd is the race, or is the 3rd? 2nd. Saturday. 2nd. 1:06:38 So the, but the party, so you come in. There- There's pre-rides. There's, is there a hall- So come in on Halloween. Find Austin. 1:06:45 If you're in Austin on Halloween, there's gonna be a giant shit show.Lots of booze, lots of fun Single speed related or not, Austin just is a shit show in all- Unrelated... okay. Austin's a shit show at Halloween. 1:06:58 Wear your costumes because costumes are super cool. Uh- For Halloween and for the race? Well, of course. Yeah. There's a lot of costumes at Single Speed. No. There should- We're not, we're not allowing them. No... 1:07:11 there's not as many as there used to be, but if you wanna wear one, then you'll be- Yeah, go ahead... like- [laughs] They're not allowed, but go ahead. [laughs] I hate it. I hate it. 1:07:19 I mean, I feel like if you wanna wear a costume, you're gonna be super rewarded because we love costumes. Who's bringing this race? You or me? I am. Okay, never mind then. Yeah, we gave it to Carrie. I'm in charge. 1:07:32 Okay, sorry. Um- Sorry. Um- And then I would say that, uh, Friday the Austin Single Speeders are gonna host a ride, and it's gonna be fucking gnarly and fun. 1:07:45 If you wanna ride local trails, trails- Local trails in Austin... that are, like, super cool, you should come out for that. And that's like... It's earlier in the day, right? It's at 10:00. 1:07:55 At 10:00 AM you're gonna ride the Austin Green Belts. You're gonna ride some shit that you're gonna be like, "This is fucking cool." Yeah. And they're meeting at? Uh, Specs. Which is a bar. A liquor store. 1:08:06 Liquor store, which is awesome. A liquor store. Right. Um, but they're gonna wrap it up by 2:00 because- And then we'll go to Chumba. So Chumba's a bike builder, a local Austin USA made- Local bike builder, yeah... 1:08:16 um, and he's throwing a party for a couple hours. Super rad. Vince is gonna throw a party, and then leave there at 4:00 and come out to Smithville. And then, and we're gonna meet at, what's it called? Coaches? 1:08:30 Coaches, yeah. Registration is gonna be at Coaches. Registration's at Coaches. Yeah. Which is a bar in- Uh, 6:00 to 8:00... Smithville. Yep. And it, and the back, and it w- it's a cool place. 1:08:37 It's a couple blocks from the, uh... It's on the main drag. It's on Main Street. It's a- Super cool place... it's a very cool bar. Yeah. Yeah. What's the population of Smithville? Can't be more than like 4,000. 1:08:48 I, you know, I don't know. Yeah, it's fairly small. 'Cause I don't [laughs] really go there. 1:08:52 Yeah, but it's small enough that when you get there you can probably ride to everything except for the trailhead, which we have a shuttle f- Yeah... 1:08:59 shuttle take you from the bars to the campground, which the campground is on the trails. Yeah. It's about f- it's about four-ish miles, but it's, there's no shoulder, so we'll have- And speed limits are crazy down here. 1:09:10 Yeah. It's like 65. Yeah. So- That's crazy for a two-lane road- Oh, yeah... with no shoulder. No shit. Yeah. So yeah, please don't ride your bike. So we'll have a shuttle- Please don't [laughs] ride your bike... 1:09:19 we'll have a shuttle to get everybody into town for the festivities after. We will have a shuttle. Yeah. We'll have... Well, we'll have parties out at the campground, and we'll have the, 1:09:27 um, we, you'll have to come into town for the decider, and the decider is for the state teams to host it next year. Um, we're gonna do the derby probably, the championship. We'll do the derby at 5:00 at Rocky Hill Ranch. 1:09:40 That'll be at the ranch. So the race'll be at 10:00. We figure you should probably be done by 3:00. [laughs] You stretched it out, I can see. You're thinking 2:00, 3:00. I know. 1:09:56 I was doing math in my head, and it was really hard- Yeah... 'cause I just do math for a living. Somewhere between 15 and 45 miles, we're gonna say the course- Yeah... is gonna be in that range. 1:10:05 Yeah, and then come out and have some barbecue and- There's food afterwards, yeah... after that we're gonna do the d- uh, the derby. The derby. For the belt. Yes. You can't participate. Yes, I can. Okay. 1:10:18 [laughs] So then we're- I will. I fucking will participate. [laughs] I guarantee you. Oh, if you're paying your entry fee then, well, damn it. Oh, well, then that's fine. [laughs] I will pay an entry fee. 1:10:28 Whatever, whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. I- She's lonely without that belt. And then, uh- I, no, I don't wanna win it. [laughs] So then we're gonna go to, uh, we'll have the decider- Heroes... 1:10:39 in town, and then we'll get the, everybody should be out of town by 11:00? Yes. We'll have a shuttle. For those, for those that wanna go back out to the ranch, we'll have shu- We'll have a shuttle from 6:00 to 11:00... 1:10:52 we'll have a shuttle going. So if you wanna come back, you can. Uh-huh. And then- And then everything else is just fuckoffery. Yeah, and then it's just party. Yeah. Party until tomorrow. Still Saturday. 1:11:02 Still Sa- #StillSaturday. #StillSaturday and Sunday. Well, the big thing is don't, don't forget that there's other ranches. 1:11:10 If you come down for, like, an extended stay, there's, what, three, four other ranches that you could go ride- Yeah... that are as much fun as w- the one we're gonna be at. Well, we should talk about that too. 1:11:21 That's not true. Part of the, part of the thing- No, that's-... with Single Speed USA is that, uh, and the decider that somebody else hosts it every year, is that, that's w- um, for me is my vacation every year. 1:11:31 I don't, I wouldn't have gone to, um, wherever in New York, uh, what was the name of that- Port Jervis... Port Jervis, New York- Port Jervis, yeah... uh, unless it was for that race. 1:11:40 Um, same thing with, with a lot of different places. That's, that's kinda the key, that whoever hosts it, um, you're gonna go travel to that town. 1:11:47 You know, s- come a few days early, do all the cool stuff, like we did, uh, in Single Speed Washington. Went to Seattle for a couple days. We went to that market thing whatever. We rode the train. 1:11:56 That was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. I don't know why I fly everywhere when train has a bar car, you know? [laughs] True. 1:12:04 And, uh, yeah, that's, that's the coolest thing about C- Single Speed USA, is that you go to a new city with a bunch of people who are like you. So- Right... y- y- all your misfit, misfit friends- And the, and the-... 1:12:15 will be there... and that's the, that's the biggest idea. It's n- it's, Smithville is the best place to run the race and have a party for ease to people to get to. 1:12:24 But that doesn't mean that Austin doesn't have awesome riding, and there's, there's other ranches around the area that have great riding too. So there's lots of shit to do when you come down here. 1:12:33 It's not like just come in there and foc- well, you should focus on the race. But I mean, uh, but I mean, seriously, if you wanna come down and- Focus on the belt. Oh, yeah. Focus on the belt. 1:12:42 Yeah, because I wanna fuck that. I knew- [laughs]... I, I, I'm not editing this out. You, uh, uh, she's nice. I'm nice. We're not allowed to talk about this. 1:12:51 We, we, yeahOh, you guys would get along so good if that belt was not involved. Apparently, I have issues. [laughs] You have anger issues. Knock that off. It's not anger issues. Anything else? 1:13:00 Okay, so- Okay, well, let's- Yeah, I guess there's nothing else to talk about. We got it all covered. No, we got it. All right, we got it covered. We got it covered. Anything else you wanna say? No, I'm done. Okay. 1:13:08 You wanna thank your sponsors? I do. Thank you, Sue, for watching my dogs. [laughs] Thank you, Austin Single Speeders. Yeah. Thank you, Austin- And yeah, Austin Single Speeder guys have really stepped up. 1:13:18 That's been awesome. Yeah. 'Cause we figured it was just gonna be a bunch of us yahoos doing it from everywhere except for Austin. Uh-huh. And they've, like- They're, they're working on free beer- Yeah... for the racers. 1:13:29 Yeah. Oh my God, I hope so so much. They've got one job, and if they fail on that, Austin is fucking dead to us. [laughs] I, I think they're gonna pull through. Oh, yeah. I was pretty impressed with these guys tonight. 1:13:38 Yeah, they're good. I think they're- They're the most amazing guys. They're... Yeah, they're cool. All right. All right. Are y'all gonna get the fuck out of my house? No, we gotta go in there right now. Oh, shit. 1:13:47 Are we gonna go to Tanner's to stay? I don't know. Let's, let's cut the show. Y'all wanna stay here? Thanks for listening, everybody. [laughs] We're gonna figure out what the hell we're doing, 'cause we have no idea. 1:13:53 Good night. We don't know where we're staying. 1:13:55 [laughs] [upbeat music]
