New! 38 Frameworks – First Carbon Fat-Bike!

The New! 38 Frameworks ‘Hogback’ Full Carbon Fat-Bike!

38 Frameworks announces their new Hogback!

The first production Full-Carbon Fat-Bike!

This weekend at the Iceman Cometh Challenge near Traverse City, Michigan –  38 frameworks will unveil the very first pair of carbon fiber ‘Hogback’ fat-bikes to the cycling world! The Hogback is hand made in Colorado. Features include a custom Enve tubeset, full carbon drops and super fat tire clearance – (clown shoes and big fat larry pictured above). The Hogback has an asymmetrical- 170 rear triangle and the frame is available with custom sizing and geometry.


The hog back has an over sized head tube that will accommodate forks with straight or tapered steer tubes.


We’ll be reporting more details about how the Hogback rides next week, after we get a chance to give one a test ride! –

MSRP = $2395 for the frame. 

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35 Responses to New! 38 Frameworks – First Carbon Fat-Bike!

  1. Booming November 2, 2012 at 11:22 am #

    Can’t wait!

  2. dana November 2, 2012 at 11:27 am #

    WOW two killa fat options within 2 days is pretty sweet!!

  3. Beaker November 2, 2012 at 12:51 pm #

    There she is Jim,

    But can it do BONFIRES!?

  4. JYB November 2, 2012 at 12:52 pm #

    Look at that crank…

  5. Jeff November 2, 2012 at 1:28 pm #

    I knew it would happen. Just a matter of time.

  6. Elvis November 2, 2012 at 2:36 pm #

    X0 cranks?

    custom spindle perhaps?

  7. boomking November 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm #

    I hope to have one in a few weeks!!!

  8. Tommy November 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm #

    When I got my Pugsley all those years back I thought, “There’s no way these bikes will ever go mainstream, I won’t ever have to worry about some guy double parked across the trailhead with one of these strapped to the top of his BMW talking on his Bluetooth about how he just left the office and is about to go ‘train’.”

    But alas, here I am again. I had said the same thing about singlespeeds, and 29ers, and even singlespeed 29ers when they first came out, and I’ve been proven wrong yet again.

    It’s only a matter of time before everything cool in cycling becomes just another super light laterally-stiff-yet-vertically-compliant-bleh-bleh-bleh, status symbol for the latest cross-over yuppie triathlete. Don’t get me wrong, the bike is cool. I’m not saying it isn’t. But it’s the type of person who actually BUYS a carbon fat bike I’m dreading to run into out there…

    • Mark Peterson November 3, 2012 at 1:05 pm #

      I totally agree. I’ll bet their legs are shaved.

      P.S. the bike is cool, but I have sworn off carbon until they can give a 20 year life, until then I’ll just have to be happy with steel, Ti, & Alum.

      • Tommy November 3, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

        Amen my friend. Amen.

      • Boomking November 5, 2012 at 7:50 pm #

        Aluminum has a 20 year life ? I have seen many,many broken aluminum frames, and steel and ti. Heck ive broken all four!

      • Jo Løvbrøtte November 16, 2012 at 10:16 am #

        Shaved legs…………this is obviously a thing you do not understand!
        Judging tools like this Fatbike from the people using it from whether they shave their legs or not should disqualify you from commenting here!
        I am european, you must be republican!

        • Gomez November 16, 2012 at 10:34 am #

          Simmer down now kids – let’s play nice – I have a delete button and I’m not afraid to use it.

    • Lance November 10, 2012 at 9:36 am #

      Tommy, what are you smoking??? Couldn’t disagree more, you’ rather have a cheap steel frame built in Taiwan or someplace else that breaks in a year or two, or is so heavy that you can’t experience the joy of acceleration… Some of us love a solid well-built American bike… what the hell is wrong with you?

      Sure they will cost more, that’s fine, some people save their $ for years so that they can buy a nice bike, not everyone who rides a nice carbon bike makes a lot of money and drives a BMW, some of us are still driving the same VW Jetta we’ve had for over 12 years…

      IMO… 😉

      • Tommy November 12, 2012 at 9:08 am #

        First and foremost, I am smoking a hand-rolled Cuban cigar. I can afford those with all the money I save buying inexpensive Asian-made products.

        At some point in our future people will have this same argument over wether things are made on EARTH anymore, so I’m not too worried about it. But that’s another subject completely. So allow me to state my final piece on this plastic Fat Bike debate and let it be done, take it or leave it…

        *climbs atop a soap box*

        I can guarantee the vast majority of steel frames, on the road this very day, are the same ones that will be ridden in the post-fossil fuel apocalypse, Mad Max style, whenever that happens. And the vast majority of those WILL, in fact, be “Cheap Taiwanese Surlys.” I also would bet my own “Pugsrey” will still be around, even if I am not. And undoubtedly the Moonlanders and Pugsleys will rule the wasteland hand-in-hand like Tina Turner and Mel Gibson before them.

        *steps down from soap box*

        I’m not sure what it is about guys named Lance and riding plastic bikes but it seems to be a pattern.

        In that same vein, If my suspicions are correct and you ARE the same Lance I’ve been hearing so much about lately, might want to wax up that Jetta and get it tuned up for sale. Stick that shiny ‘MURRICAN-made beauty (because I reiterate, it IS a beautiful bike) up on the roofrack too and see if you can get yourself a nice package deal going, I hear there’s some people out there who might want their prize money back.

        You do raise a good question though, what IS wrong with me?
        Oh yea, nothing.

    • Morpheous January 18, 2013 at 2:53 pm #

      So you bought a publicly available commercial product from a company that stays in business by selling that same product to as many people as they can and you expected it to hold its uniqueness? Sounds like you are relegated to a MTN Uni at this point to maintain your niche. (Can you juggle?)

  9. JL November 2, 2012 at 3:09 pm #

    That’s the best name they could come up with? Hogback? Sounds to much like Fatback? I wonder how much offset is build into the asymmetric rear? Would have loved to see a matching tapered fork to their frame offering.

    • Leebherron November 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm #

      Sram Scam? XO crankset? Please fill me in……

      • Gomez November 2, 2012 at 6:56 pm #

        Scam? Why do you all feel like you need to be the next Ralph Nader?

  10. Boomking November 2, 2012 at 5:47 pm #

    In defense of inovation.
    Yes, the surly is a solid working mans bike company. Thank god that there are companies that will put up their own money to try to make something nicer. Maybe something different. FYI its not the most expensive fatbike out there at 2300 frame. Look at all the Ti and custom steel offerings. Do you have a problem with them? Because a builder wants to push new ideas or new materials. I road a lugged steel Italian frame for 10+ years. It was great when I first got it. Not so great from today’s standards.
    Onward and upward.
    As we used to say when I was a Vermont Widsor chair maker their’s an ass for every seat.
    I’m looking for something that’s a blast to RIDE! Don’t care about the A*holes in the parking lot. It’s carving the roots, rocks and sweet, sweet trails. If a lighter, sharper frame with better and better parts helps….
    Come, take a test ride. First ride is free…!!!!
    Peace out,
    Blah blah blah,
    I already regret writing this.
    Can wait to get mine to demo. Will write up a review.
    FYI, the inovate carbon fork I replaced my steel mukluk was night and day better! No question!

    • Tommy November 3, 2012 at 2:12 pm #

      Hey man no reason to regret. I respect your opinion and you do make some good points. And I suppose my post did make me seem like a whiny bitch who’s reluctant to innovation. I promise that’s not the case.

      I just see carbon as a status symbol in cycling these days, not much else. In this particular application it is all but useless to me. And the more I think of it, no. I do not have an issue with TI and steel because they are proven materials in all conditions, even in the special conditions associated with true fatbiking.

      I just don’t think of carbon when I think of iditabike or any other true fatbiking events. Where are the rack mounts? Where are the extra bottle mounts for ‘anything’ cages? Can you put a frame bag on it? Are you really going to add 30lbs worth of camping gear to an ‘ultralight’ frame that may or may not even be able to withstand the extra load? And it’s anyone’s guess how this thing’s going to react to salt spray from beach riding (although in fairness, steel is weak there unless properly treated).

      What happens if I dump the thing on a rock (granted steel and TI can also be damaged by this, but the location and extent of the damage is visible, whereas carbon tends to fail suddenly and catastrophically, often without ever knowing it was going to happen, the only thing you see sometimes is just a scratch.

      I’ve also heard rumors that riding carbon in extreme cold can weaken the lamination (not sure how true this is but logic seems to dictate it would) causing the frame to at the very least be super-flexy and at the worst, obviously, fail.

      Again, I reiterate, the bike IS cool. Almost a work of art. A great trade-show type piece. I just don’t see a carbon fatbike as a practical thing out on the trail. Does short-track cross country racing on a dry, warm, sunny day really jive with the whole purpose of a fatbike? To me, no.

      And you’re right, I suppose shouldn’t worry about the type of person that buys one, but they are there, in my way, giving mountain bikers everywhere a bad name with locals and the other trail users. Maybe there are more people like that in New England? (where I’m from). To me they seem all too common. Here’s an article that sort of backs me up on frame materials just in case you think I’m pulling all that stuff about steel out of my you-know-what.

      • 38FW November 4, 2012 at 3:55 pm #

        Appreciate your comments. As with anything else, we feel it’s always nice to be able to offer more choices. We realize our carbon frame won’t be everyone’s cup of tea but we had a great time developing the idea and bringing it to the public. We’re also proud of the fact that these are handmade in the USA. As to the comments about extra bottle mounts, it’s definitely an option. Look for us at NAHBS with some new surprises. We believe the type of frame material doesn’t categorize a rider as good or bad. Hopefully that’s not the case, as that is definitely not the image we’re trying to promote.

      • special k November 12, 2012 at 2:30 pm #

        Fatness over fitness.

        If you buy one out of crabon do you need to wear a kit and monitor your cadence?

        Come to think of it I can get a Giro Air Attack helmet and cut down some wind resistance.

        Isn’t that the point of fat biking? Big tires, heavy mofo frame and mucho fun?


  11. Surly Shawn November 3, 2012 at 10:30 am #


  12. Boomking November 3, 2012 at 10:42 am #

    Thats the weight with clown shoes, and BFL. It would drop a lot with the extra lite Husker Dus
    Also I found out the crankset was custom modified with a welded spindle.

  13. Saw November 3, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    What is up with all the hate’n? Beautiful bike!

    • dana November 4, 2012 at 11:51 am #

      lotsa negative nancy’s out there for such a positive note for the FAT movement it defies logic. It’s not for the masses just as the full squish Carver isn’t however strides forward will continue as people use their noggins for somthin besides a place to strap a helmet.

  14. Gomez November 4, 2012 at 3:11 pm #

    The article was updated with an MSRP of $2,395 for the frame.

  15. Johnny Settle November 7, 2012 at 11:46 am #

    Pretty cool, but I’m saving for the Pinarello Dogma Fatbike.

  16. Johnny Settle November 7, 2012 at 11:52 am #

    38FW: PS, serious props to USA built.

  17. Hughonabike November 7, 2012 at 11:55 am #

    I been riding my Pug for 6 years or so and luv it. I’m so hung on fat bikes so much so I’ve custom made my own sexed-up ti fat bike…….If I say so myself it’s rather lurvvly and slightly porney . This carbon beaut is a porn droolfest itself and I think it will turn heads for sure and fat too artyfarty to keep in a garage But I think mine is better…….just a bit. I still haven’t thought of a name yet any suggestions.

  18. Rickyd November 11, 2012 at 5:43 am #

    Confused about the hate also. It’s a pretty, innovative, American made bike. Bravo 38FW for bringing this to market and offering us another choice.

    • JYB February 25, 2013 at 9:28 pm #

      38FW…props for making this nice frame in the U.S. There are still a handful of us out here who value the efforts that it takes to keep manufacturing in the states. Even though I’m not currently in the market for a carbon fattie, I have nothing but respect for your products.

  19. steve March 30, 2013 at 12:38 am #

    Where can I buy one!

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